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Kusaragi

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:47 pm


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Sentama Lin

That sounds delicious, Tae. I've never thought of using teriyaki as a salad dressing, mostly because I associate teriyaki with meat more often than not. :3

Sanbaitsuu is basically white vinegar, sweetened rice wine, sugar (or your choice of sweetener, I prefer honey), and a broth/stock of your choice (a few tablespoons), simmered for a small while to dissolve the sweetner, then put on whatever. It's good for salads and, in general, fresh veggies.


I very well may be the only one who thinks it's tasty. x3

Sanbaitsuu sounds really good. I'm going to google a recipe so I can try it. =D

Question for you, while you're in the thread. There's some debate in one of my guilds about the word "queer". It's definition, mostly. Any input here? Most of the guild members are like 14, so I'm just curious to see what someone my own age thinks of the word. sweatdrop


I've grown up with the thought that queer is
"adjective
1. strange; odd : she had a queer feeling that they were being watched.
• [ predic. ] dated slightly ill."

But the new generation uses it in the derogatory way, to label a person (Usually Male) a homosexual.
Being on the fence I've been labeled this a few times and it stings, but I choose to ignore it most of the time.

Edit: @ Mugen: Great minds think alike. xd
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:49 pm


User Image Hmm. . . User Image

Reiku Alche


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:50 pm


Great minds think for themselves...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:51 pm


Mugem: It's not just bigots who use the term, and it no longer just means "homosexual".

Kusa: It's not always derogatory. sweatdrop Many, many of my lesbian friends refer to themselves as queer, and not usually in a negative way. Personally, I identify that way. I'd be more inclined to call myself queer than to call myself gay.

Admittedly, this isn't a word that was used to attack me, which is probably why I'm not as opposed to the use as other people are. I know that my view on this is not typical, and I totally get why other people wouldn't use the word to describe themselves. sweatdrop

And then there's the genderqueer community...Anyway, there was some discussion about whether intersex, asexual, pansexual, etc, would be included in the definition of queer, and I didn't think so.

Taeryyn

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Mugen Nagrom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:53 pm


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Mugem: It's not just bigots who use the term, and it no longer just means "homosexual".

Kusa: It's not always derogatory. Many, many of my lesbian friends refer to themselves as queer, and not usually in a negative way. Personally, I identify that way. I'd be more inclined to call myself queer than to call myself gay.

Admittedly, this isn't a word that was used to attack me, which is probably why I'm not as opposed to the use as other people are. I know that my view on this is not typical, and I totally get why other people wouldn't use the word to describe themselves. sweatdrop

I realize its not just bigots that use it, its just that the original meaning is usually lost just like fagot(a bundle of sticks)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:53 pm


It really depends on the context. I usually associate queer, most of the time, to these two definitions (again, depending on context):

  • An odd or weird event or situation.
  • Referring to someone who does not conform to mainstream heterosexist norms. Can be derogatory (depending on how the word is used). Most-usually refers to, in my opinion, biological males.

Corollary: Queer culture, then, are individuals who do not have "normal" heterosexual relationships including, but not limited to, gay individuals, bisexual individuals, omnisexual individuals, transgendered and transsexual individuals, etc., and their allies.

My opinion, when not used in a derogatory manner, I find queer to be a more inclusive umbrella term than the GLBT community and allies, simply because it seems to put more under its umbrella. But that's just my thought.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:53 pm


*peaks into thread*

Ello!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:55 pm


Elcia
*peaks into thread*

Ello!

Sorry... I can't resist... but...

That's what she said!

Hello Elcia. How are you doing?

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Taeryyn

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:55 pm


Mugen Nagrom

I realize its not just bigots that use it, its just that the original meaning is usually lost just like fagot(a bundle of sticks)

I appreciate the input. =) I should have been a bit more specific with what I was asking for. I meant the contemporary definition of the word. But it is interesting how words change their meanings.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:55 pm


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Mugem: It's not just bigots who use the term, and it no longer just means "homosexual".

Kusa: It's not always derogatory. Many, many of my lesbian friends refer to themselves as queer, and not usually in a negative way. Personally, I identify that way. I'd be more inclined to call myself queer than to call myself gay.

Admittedly, this isn't a word that was used to attack me, which is probably why I'm not as opposed to the use as other people are. I know that my view on this is not typical, and I totally get why other people wouldn't use the word to describe themselves. sweatdrop


No sweats... Everyone has a different perspective of the world, mine just didn't like the jabs from Highschool, If I was a little more inclined to males and a little less inclined to females I may have been more comfortable with the title. But as it stands I never really met anyone who had that confidence to turn something so ugly looking (Emphases on this word) into something they can identify with. Give your friends kudos. ^_^

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Mugen Nagrom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:58 pm


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Mugen Nagrom

I realize its not just bigots that use it, its just that the original meaning is usually lost just like fagot(a bundle of sticks)

I appreciate the input. =) I should have been a bit more specific with what I was asking for. I meant the contemporary definition of the word. But it is interesting how words change their meanings.

You would also find that to be true of most curse words, sadly due to changing times you can no longer say p***y Cat....
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:00 pm


Kusaragi

No sweats... Everyone has a different perspective of the world, mine just didn't like the jabs from Highschool, If I was a little more inclined to males and a little less inclined to females I may have been more comfortable with the title. But as it stands I never really met anyone who had that confidence to turn something so ugly looking (Emphases on this word) into something they can identify with. Give your friends kudos. ^_^


From what I can tell, the use of terms like "queer" by lesbians (and women in general) to describe themselves is not nearly as widespread elsewhere as it is here. I think that might also be a big reason why I'm comfortable with the word. I'm not a fan of the term "f**", mainly because of highschool. Even "gay" isn't one of my favourite terms.

Lin
It really depends on the context. I usually associate queer, most of the time, to these two definitions (again, depending on context):


* An odd or weird event or situation.
* Referring to someone who does not conform to mainstream heterosexist norms. Can be derogatory (depending on how the word is used). Most-usually refers to, in my opinion, biological males.


Corollary: Queer culture, then, are individuals who do not have "normal" heterosexual relationships including, but not limited to, gay individuals, bisexual individuals, omnisexual individuals, transgendered and transsexual individuals, etc., and their allies.

My opinion, when not used in a derogatory manner, I find queer to be a more inclusive umbrella term than the GLBT community and allies, simply because it seems to put more under its umbrella. But that's just my thought.

I agree about the umbrella aspect. I'm just hesitant to ever use the word because so many people are deeply offended by the term queer (and understandably so).


Anyway, thank you all. =)

Taeryyn

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Reiku Alche

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:01 pm


User Image Grr. . . I LOATHE those kinds of people! And I'm a generally forgiving and well mannered person. There's just too many of them at my school and they all make me feel like punting infants at their heads. User Image
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:03 pm


ReikuGotH
User Image Grr. . . I LOATHE those kinds of people! And I'm a generally forgiving and well mannered person. There's just too many of them at my school and they all make me feel like punting infants at their heads. User Image

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Mugen Nagrom


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:03 pm


Good evening, Elcia. heart
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