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 Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:52 am
Sanzoskitsune @Steph I would never think something like that! Unless you know... you expressed disdain for me and said mean things to me which you haven't done so only love your way! Ha ha, just checking. Bad timing is bad. Alarias @Steph - No plumbing? o.0 Hmm well, we have inbred cats...all of them have been nothing but trouble. Cats are just a bad idea all around as far as I can tell. Nah. One of the stipulations of getting the babies was that they get their little kitty tubes tied. So they're... ah... demilitarized. Mine just go into weird kitty fits sometimes. And they smack your ankles and stuff. whee I've never really had a bad experience with cats. Why do you think they're bad? I've only ever been attacked by dogs.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:57 am
*tackles Steph from the rafters and loves on her* hiya
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:11 pm
Hey hey hey. How goes it?
I'm doing online research for one of my online courses.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:12 pm
yay for research... well at least online which is pretty easy
I'm doing good, just got back from campus and am now chilling with my puppy
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:16 pm
Ooh, that sounds nice. I got chased out of my house by my mom. crying I'm in the computer lab at my school.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:19 pm
aww why'd you get chased out?
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:22 pm
It's a really dumb, long story. Part of it is posted in the Perspective thread I made.
Hey, can you read my discussion post for my Marriage class and tell me if you see any holes? I'd like not to have some pretentious douche tear my argument apart all over the web.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:24 pm
sure I wouldn't mind giving it a once over 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:27 pm
Thanks a ton. It's kind of long (it was only supposed to be 200 words,) so I made the text a little smaller...
Question: After having read chapter one in your text and several related articles, do you agree/disagree with the premise that "family decline" today is cause for alarm? Post your response to my question (don't forget to document borrowed information ).
My Response:
I do not think that family decline today is a cause for alarm at all. When taking into account that the text comes right out in the very first chapter to claim that it is almost impossible to accurately describe every family in one definition, I think that the nature of the problem is made apparent – the old family values are obsolete. What works for one family unit may not necessarily work for others, and just because society has evolved does not mean that there is actually anything lost by this new attitude toward families.
One source that I found said on the course introduction page that the family is not actually in decline, but that it seems that there is a more diverse definition of families. I happen to agree with this. Expanding a definition and developing a more inclusive societal image does not have to be a negative change. The oppressive nature of the nuclear family and its tight, shiny plastic covering is better in the past, when America was not as diverse a place. Now that there has been an explosion in cultural and societal development, there is no place for such a fake, predetermined definition of family. In the societal era during which the nuclear family was conceived, there would never have been an African-American president, or legislation introduced regarding homosexual marriage rights or even a niche for feminists who had differing views than the nuclear homemaker-wife.
“The modern family evolved in concert with industrialization, science, and technology. With the growth of specialized wage labour, economically productive work moved beyond the reach of the family compound. Individualized remuneration and liability led to a redefinition of kinship obligations. The family that was engaged in farming or crafts could be expanded because extra hands could produce extra food and other products. Its boundaries were elastic. The resources of the salaried family and the number of people who could be supported by its wage-earners were fixed. Living space in the neighbourhood of factories and other specialized worksites was expensive and non-expansible. Where neighbours were strangers, the modern family became a "haven in a heartless world" (Lasch 1977).”
Based on the information in this passage, the idea of the nuclear family is unrealistic, even in today’s society with today’s economy. It is almost impossible to uphold these old-fashioned values in the world of today because the lifestyle that is expected and encouraged is entirely different. Anyone of any gender, age or race can get a job that will carry a household. This means that not only do women have more opportunities to advance in today’s world, they also have more responsibility. It has been proved time and time again that the old must be replaced by the new, and the family unit is no different – who would ride a car in which the transmission hadn’t been changed since the 1940’s?
A course syllabus I found claims that experts are arguing that “growing individualism is undermining” family values, and as a result is a factor in this “family decline.” I pose the question that if individualism is bad for this particular institution, then wouldn’t it be a better and healthier world without that institution? The same way that lack of social interaction can cause social disorders, couldn’t a family where individualism is discouraged lead to psychological and social issues? It is a well-known fact that the effects of bad parenting are felt throughout a person’s entire life, not just as a child. Perhaps instead of facing a decline, the family is being forced to mature into a more socially-responsible concept as new information regarding family dynamics is uncovered.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:31 pm
it sounds good to me, I would add what class the syllabus was from that you got that mini quote from in the last paragraph though, just cause the teacher might want to know
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:33 pm
Thanks. I have three sources cited and linked in the bottom of the page. I just wanted to make sure that the actual argument was as coherent to others as it is to me. Two of my sources were class introductions to online course syllabuses, and one was an essay on the sociology of families.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:35 pm
the argument seems clear to me and its a good argument, your sources look really good too
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:39 pm
Thanks. blaugh
It's a relatively simple class. I have a hard time talking about things I don't care about, though. I figured this would be a good way to become more... eloquent.
Anyway, what's up?
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:43 pm
Yeah I know what you mean, even for things I care about I sometimes have a hard time expressing myself
nothing much, watching a House marathon cause well... House rocks
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:49 pm
I just get so flustered I can't think straight. Anyway, those assignments are done now. I have to do some studying on MLA for English though. I've been writing essays since I was sixteen, but I need to be quizzed on how to do it. rolleyes
Yeah, I gathered as much. I love his pissy little comments - especially how he delivers them like they're small talk. xd
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