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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:03 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:56 pm
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:42 am
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:14 am
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:58 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:38 pm
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:32 pm
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Calypsophia Hellraver Minds are unique and undividable. A mind is always "complete" no matter how much brainhalves are inside the head. There are people who share your opinions and your views, but you only share equal ideas and not a mind. but is the mind always complete tho? think about Alzheimers. it's a physical condition of the brain that affects the memory to the point where the person might not remember his/her own family members. or cause the person to say the same things over again in the same way, just like a broken record (you guys might not get that analogy) getting stuck in the same loop. I've experienced this with my grandmother shortly before she died. again, I say it's like the radio analogy I used before. brain = radio, mind = radio waves. but a broken radio either wont play the music clearly or at all. doesnt mean that the knowledge of the mind doesnt exist. it's just fragmented (staticy) when trying to come thru a sick or damaged brain.
It's true, that Alzheimer is something like a mindkiller. Of course it "fragments" data. I wanted to tell with my statement, that it is impossible to divide it into two or share it with someone.
But even Alzheimer is not an absolute mindkiller. There have been patients who had Alzheimer, not recognizing their family, but special areas of interest, like playing chess or equally difficult tasks.
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:55 pm
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Hellraver Calypsophia Hellraver Minds are unique and undividable. A mind is always "complete" no matter how much brainhalves are inside the head. There are people who share your opinions and your views, but you only share equal ideas and not a mind. but is the mind always complete tho? think about Alzheimers. it's a physical condition of the brain that affects the memory to the point where the person might not remember his/her own family members. or cause the person to say the same things over again in the same way, just like a broken record (you guys might not get that analogy) getting stuck in the same loop. I've experienced this with my grandmother shortly before she died. again, I say it's like the radio analogy I used before. brain = radio, mind = radio waves. but a broken radio either wont play the music clearly or at all. doesnt mean that the knowledge of the mind doesnt exist. it's just fragmented (staticy) when trying to come thru a sick or damaged brain. It's true, that Alzheimer is something like a mindkiller. Of course it "fragments" data. I wanted to tell with my statement, that it is impossible to divide it into two or share it with someone. But even Alzheimer is not an absolute mindkiller. There have been patients who had Alzheimer, not recognizing their family, but special areas of interest, like playing chess or equally difficult tasks.
well.... ok.... but I never said it was a "mind-killer"... nor did I see anyone say anything about being able to share a single mind with another person.... my comment about the brain was that just because everyones brain looks and operates the same way doesnt mean that the minds that go with them are the same. neutral
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:41 pm
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looks like here is no discussion...
well I'll help, to keep it that way twisted lol,
EDIT surprised k i havent saw the latest post, so read this again if you didnt saw the edit... i just realized that it doesnt matter... so forget about this edit...
ok, seriously, mind stands for that abstract thing where we have thoughts and a bunch of no-physical things right?
so... mind it might be in the brain... or not... since is abstract we cant tell, right?
so it doesnt matter how much of your body you are missing as long as you have a mind you should be part of the society, right?
but then, society by it self set apart the ones that have physical issues, they receive special treatment(no saying thats wrong) there are special things for them and all that s**t even tho they do have minds, so my question is:
how much of a physical "you" do you need to be able to dont be discriminated?
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:44 pm
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I am Yuu-chan looks like here is no discussion...
well I'll help, to keep it that way twisted lol, EDIT surprised k i havent saw the latest post, so read this again if you didnt saw the edit... i just realized that it doesnt matter... so forget about this edit... ok, seriously, mind stands for that abstract thing where we have thoughts and a bunch of no-physical things right? so... mind it might be in the brain... or not... since is abstract we cant tell, right? so it doesnt matter how much of your body you are missing as long as you have a mind you should be part of the society, right? but then, society by it self set apart the ones that have physical issues, they receive special treatment(no saying thats wrong) there are special things for them and all that s**t even tho they do have minds, so my question is: how much of a physical "you" do you need to be able to dont be discriminated?
people tend to discriminate anything thats different from them or out of ordinary for the human condition. some people have serious mental and physical disabilities. the degree of the disability will dictate how much or what kind of special attention they need. but some people, who are merely slower than others (like forrest gump for example) are the ones I think who are really discriminated against. and there are some who are merely disabled as in stuck in a wheelchair who have nothing wrong with their brain or mental capacity that are treated as special when they really want to be treated like everyone else.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:35 pm
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Calypsophia I am Yuu-chan looks like here is no discussion...
well I'll help, to keep it that way twisted lol, EDIT surprised k i havent saw the latest post, so read this again if you didnt saw the edit... i just realized that it doesnt matter... so forget about this edit... ok, seriously, mind stands for that abstract thing where we have thoughts and a bunch of no-physical things right? so... mind it might be in the brain... or not... since is abstract we cant tell, right? so it doesnt matter how much of your body you are missing as long as you have a mind you should be part of the society, right? but then, society by it self set apart the ones that have physical issues, they receive special treatment(no saying thats wrong) there are special things for them and all that s**t even tho they do have minds, so my question is: how much of a physical "you" do you need to be able to dont be discriminated? people tend to discriminate anything thats different from them or out of ordinary for the human condition. some people have serious mental and physical disabilities. the degree of the disability will dictate how much or what kind of special attention they need. but some people, who are merely slower than others (like forrest gump for example) are the ones I think who are really discriminated against. and there are some who are merely disabled as in stuck in a wheelchair who have nothing wrong with their brain or mental capacity that are treated as special when they really want to be treated like everyone else.
thats exactly what i was going after razz
I know I should probably say something philosophical now but instead of it, do you have msn? :3 i would like to know You, since your ideas already got me interested wink
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:16 am
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I am Yuu-chan Calypsophia I am Yuu-chan looks like here is no discussion...
well I'll help, to keep it that way twisted lol, EDIT surprised k i havent saw the latest post, so read this again if you didnt saw the edit... i just realized that it doesnt matter... so forget about this edit... ok, seriously, mind stands for that abstract thing where we have thoughts and a bunch of no-physical things right? so... mind it might be in the brain... or not... since is abstract we cant tell, right? so it doesnt matter how much of your body you are missing as long as you have a mind you should be part of the society, right? but then, society by it self set apart the ones that have physical issues, they receive special treatment(no saying thats wrong) there are special things for them and all that s**t even tho they do have minds, so my question is: how much of a physical "you" do you need to be able to dont be discriminated? people tend to discriminate anything thats different from them or out of ordinary for the human condition. some people have serious mental and physical disabilities. the degree of the disability will dictate how much or what kind of special attention they need. but some people, who are merely slower than others (like forrest gump for example) are the ones I think who are really discriminated against. and there are some who are merely disabled as in stuck in a wheelchair who have nothing wrong with their brain or mental capacity that are treated as special when they really want to be treated like everyone else. thats exactly what i was going after razz I know I should probably say something philosophical now but instead of it, do you have msn? :3 i would like to know You, since your ideas already got me interested wink
lol, no not msn. but I do have yahoo im. I'll PM you the information. smile
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:01 pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:45 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:40 am
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this is what i hate about this kinda thing. the subject changes on the very first page... so, so sad.
anyways, yes, minds can be different as fingerprints. how they function is completely controlled by a little chemical called deoxyribonucleic acid, and it's the basis for how things are done in the human body (right now, i could go into a rave about genes, chromosomes, and alleles, but that'd contradict the first sentence of this post). however it's looked at, no matter how hard you look, no two people are alike, not in the history of the world. how? simple. there are more different ways to allign those four nucleotides in six billion strands than there are humans who have lived, are living, and will live (for the next 5.6 billion years). oh, wait... that's only half the topic, but oh well.
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