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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:38 am
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:19 pm
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:05 pm
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:41 pm
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:11 pm
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:52 pm
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:08 pm
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Our sex-ed was pretty decent, I think. Granted, I'm not American.
It started in like grade 5 and 6, but that was mostly just biological stuff. Extensive information about the "upcoming biological changes", etc, etc.
Then in grade 7, they actually get into birth control and sexuality, and covered the different types of STDs.
By grade 8, we had covered many, many forms of birth control, and been told about the pros and cons of all of them. Abstinence was certainly stated as being the only 100% sure way of preventing STDs and pregnancy, but that wasn't the focus of the curriculum.
By grade 9, we had seen an extremely graphic video of childbirth, and discussed vaginal, oral, and a**l sex, as well as masturbation, among other things.
At the time, it was kind of cringe-inducing, since our teacher for grades 7, 8, and 9 was this tiny older lady who was extremely frank with us about everything. How many teenagers are mature enough to handle the thought of their 50+ teacher having a**l sex? sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:51 pm
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Phaeton 2 Sex ed was like one half day and a video in 5th grade. This for me as well.
And I split virginity into two things: Mental and Physical virginity. Physical is, of course, the aforementioned hymen, as well as any other penetrative contact of a sexual nature, willing or otherwise. Mental virginity is usually lost by the time the child hears their first curse word. It's the unblemished innocence that people have as children.
As for how the ladies like it, I wasn't brought up thinking it was dirty at all. I mean, it's no worse than a guy's, anyway. It just is. Nature must take its course, after all.
Gender roles are something that have been ingrained into the communal psyche since the beginning of civilization. Women were usually relegated to the care of the offspring, as well as holding down the fort while the men went out and hunted/gathered/fought against the world. We won't be escaping these sorts of stereotypes anytime soon, even with the swapped roles of house husbands and working momswomen. Can't even say working moms anymore, because women find it offensive that they are simply assumed to have children at some point, regardless if they want to. Same with getting married. But that's a patriarchal society for you.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:04 pm
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:08 am
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:03 pm
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:37 pm
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Saverio C. I've never in my life met someone who got these lesson in school. The more people I meet from our generation the more I meet people who were told that "Abstinence is the only way to be sure. Condoms break" education that should be given in school. I really can't help but wonder if there books are an actually representation of what American education really looks like. Mmm, yeah.
I got sex ed at least every year in middle school...6th-8th grade. I can't remember earlier or later than that.... But it definitely was not like that book at all.... Granted, I'm 25. So things may be different now. But most likely, sex ed is determined by school district. And the US has, you know...quite a lot of those.
But for me, there wasn't an abstinence program. And I recall no gender stereotypes. We learned about penises and vaginas and how they work. How fetuses grow. How STD's spread. About rape and sexual abuse.... I mean sure, a common message was "You should not be having sex" but it certainly wasn't shoved down my throat. Of course they're going to tell you not to have sex when you're in middle school....
Could they have talked more about contraceptives? Yes. Could they have mentioned more STDs other than the big ticket items like AIDS? Yes. Definitely room for improvement, but majorly misinformed? Not in my personal experience.
In the end, though, it's the damn parents who are responsible for making sure their child is properly educated when it comes to sex and gender roles. A lot of parents are too embarrassed I guess, and the child suffers. A school system can only be responsible for a kid's behavior so much.
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:18 pm
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:00 pm
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:53 pm
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In 5th grade, we had the puberty videos. In middle school we had to take a health class that didn't cover much in terms of sex ed, other than the whole STD thing. And high school didn't do s**t (or at least nothing I can really remember (which, looking back, was really stupid on their part because there were a s**t ton of teenage pregnancies at my high school and a large portion of my graduating class is either married/engaged or preggo, or both.)). Looking back though, where I was at the time kind of reflects the kind of sex ed I got; I had elementary in Washington (so I'm thinking that if I had stayed in the state, I would have gotten something similar to what Pickle got), middle school in Texas, and high school in Arizona. The latter two states are considerably more conservative so...yeah.
I do believe that it's important for parents to do most of the teaching in terms of sex ed, but my folks never did. When I started getting my period, my mom helped me out with that (in that she bought stuff for me to help me deal with it). I never ever got 'the talk' or anything remotely close, at least until the actual prospect of me having sex was almost inevitable. I can only hope that they did this primarily because I'm a girl (my family's Catholic. Not ultra-Catholic, but Catholic enough) and that they'll take a more active role with my little brother.
Also, I should point out that apparently an intact or broke hymen isn't always the best indicator of virginity because I've heard that there are other ways to break it (e.g., use of a tampon).
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