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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:21 pm
yeh well talk about vampires in general and what you think there like and/or what you'v heard.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:13 am
sweatdrop Umm... retitled it with actual words, and some one might try... But anyway, No I'm not a vampire but I used to be slightly obsessed with them?
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:34 am
Um first off I agree with BlueBoo, if you wanted an intelligent conversation about Vampires, you probably should have spelled the header correctly.
Secondly, I think the whole some people being obsessed with vampires is just weak people searching for soemthing that could give them power. Most people who become obsessed with vampires have been ridiculed or have had some level of social ostracization. Therefore they feel a need to generate a super persona to give them some sembalence of control or power in their lives. Sure I love the concept of Vampires, well not love...I don't think the idea that there are beings walking among us who kill some of us and feast on our life force or blood...I think to worship or idolize something like that would just be insane! But needless to say there are those who idealize them because they see them as some kind of persona they could adopt to make them feel better. This is just stupid and these people need a therapist not Anne Rice.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:24 pm
Actually, a vampire would not have to kill. If they did kill, a single victim could meet their needs for several days. The vampire does not need a full person's worth of blood. With a couple of victims used alternately, a vampire could feed indefinatly.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:03 pm
she is right!? eek i never thought others would know that
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:02 am
While I agree with most of what Esakita said, I don't think you necessarily have to be soically ackward to want to have another persona. Everyone has a fantasy life, some people are just more open and involved in it than others.
Personally I think vampires are cool, but in teh same way as I think wizards, spaceships, jedi, etc. are cool and fictional. I have no problem with people acting out a fantasy life so long as they remember it is a fantasy.
Vampires are not real.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:30 pm
This thread is pretty grey in my opinion, so I'm gonna let it sit for a while. But if this turns into a "OMG I LUV VAMPIRES SO MUCH!!!11" fest I'm shutting it down pronto.
You have been warned.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:12 pm
ok mister god like person! blaugh
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:20 pm
Velorius While I agree with most of what Esakita said, I don't think you necessarily have to be soically ackward to want to have another persona. Everyone has a fantasy life, some people are just more open and involved in it than others. Personally I think vampires are cool, but in teh same way as I think wizards, spaceships, jedi, etc. are cool and fictional. I have no problem with people acting out a fantasy life so long as they remember it is a fantasy. Vampires are not real. That debatable, parts of the vampire legends have basis in reality. There are diseases/genetic conditions that cause extreme sensitivity to light or problems producing hemoglobin and thus requiring an outside source. It's just like how there is a genetic condition that cause excessive hair grow and is the basis for werewolf legends.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:19 pm
Regardless of whether or not vampiric legends have basis in reality, vampires (as defined by "the reanimated body of a dead person believed to come from the grave at night and suck the blood of persons asleep") is assuredly fiction and fantasy.
To the people who voted "yes" in the poll, what makes you vampiric? Are you truly lost in your own fantast world? Or do you suffer from the aforementioned medical condition which makes your answer a less literal one? Or perhaps you somehow thought it best to poke fun at the absurdity of the poll question itself, since we already know that vampires don't exist?
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:30 pm
I love to read books about them and the whole darker side of life is amusing. the whole higher power and being able to do something with that power is amusing and i can see why people get caught up in the idea of something as intresting as that.
but as for them actually walking around killing others im not so keen on. and im not sure i would want to be one - never seeing day light, killing evry night, hiding from vamp killers.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:20 pm
i think that vampires can walk in daylight... well most of them it's just that they don't like the light because they are naturaly nocternal. ninja
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:44 pm
I never got why people thought vampires were so cool. They scared the crap out of me when I was little. emo
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:45 am
Regarding Vampirism:
There is an actual disease wherein one of the states it sends the victim into could be considered vampiric. It's a rare form of porphyria that results in the gum line receding, the skin to blister when exposed to sunlight, and the body to suffer from a lack of iron in the bloodstream. It can therefore be said that original cases of "vampirism" were, in fact, the odd case of someone suffering from a type of porphyria. There was an entire article in the Toronto Star about this disease. I need to dig it out again and post it.
Regarding self-proclaimed Vampires:
I think media has totally romanticized the idea behind vampires, transforming them into super cool, gothy, tragic and romantic figures who know kung fu. In the same way that many fans of, say, anime wish to associate themselves with the romanticized form of ninjas, such is the case with many goths. As such, the goths wish to see themselves as romantic and tragic, and feel that this idea of vampirism is appealling.
Regarding actual Vampires:
Has nobody read the original Bram Stoker's Dracula? Vampires were considerably different. Hell, even Dracula HIMSELF was different. Let me break down the main points for ya:
First of all, powers. In the original Stoker book, Dracula was practically a demigod when the sun set. He could transform into a bat, a wolf, or a whole field of rats, but also animals like moths or foxes. He also had complete command over these animals. Then there was the fact that he could CONTROL THE WEATHER. He had power over mist, fog and ******** thunder.
Secondly, Dracula was not the KING of the vampires. This idea was adopted by other authors because he was the most famous one. The book implies that he is one of a handful of powerful, crazy mofos.
Thirdly and finally, the message of Dracula. The original book was basically a comment on hierarchy. Dracula's victims were all gypsies, peasants, landowners, lawyers, ship crews, and the owners of insane asylum. You get the impression as you read this book that Dracula would treat these people with respect if they were actually of the same class as he. As such, the message of Dracula is about how many noblemen and members of the ruling class are demonic in the way they treat people they feel are beneath them.
Class is adjourned!
As for Me:
I'm not a godsdamned vampire, I know that much.
And now that I've read the original Dracula book, I feel that there is not much done in media to beef up the mythos and mystery behind vampires. Instead, we get sexy goth chicks in leather tearing into each other and knowing kung-fu. Vampires were meant to be scary, things to fear and hide from. Instead they're playable races in RPGs.
Seriously. Frickin. Cheapened.
That is all.
EDIT: Post 13, how appropriate. :3
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:05 pm
bigist vamp post i'v ever seen! eek ninja blaugh
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