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Do you think it is easier in society today to be a male or a female? Maybe it is equal?

Include social life, physical attributes, sterotypes etc. in your responses (: I am sure we will have very different opinions from people.

So, post your thoughts!

opinion based...

I'd say guy. Guys have one role to take on. Girls have two. They have to keep their own as well as taking on a guy's role. Why do I say that? Think about it this way, is there a "force" that persuade girls to look pretty? Now also think about this. Is there another "force" that says girls and guys are equal and that what guys can do girls should too? Guy's benefits, girls too? Now with that being said, girls take on their own feminine role while having to also take on a second role to "have equality" with guys. While guys on the other hand only have one role to play.

Personal opinion of course.

That's their own fault though. WE don't try and persuade them to be guy-like in order to be "equal." They do it themselves. Nobody's telling them they have to do it, so nobody's going to marvel over how much "work" they're doing trying to play both genders when nobody asked them to. I know i don't. In fact I'd prefer them to be less man-like. That's kinda creepy if you think about it, esp. if you're straight like me.

But anyway i don't think that's really an answerable question, because plenty of women have it worse than men and plenty of men have it worse than women. There is no correct answer because there are so many different individuals out there you know what I'm saying?

I never asked for a direct answer.

I thought the question was opinion based to begin with. So, opinions are all I really want.

May not be their fault they were "oppressed" for centuries, but it's not a woman's (or ANYONE'S) place to take out their frustrations on male society as a whole. The only thing that crops out of this type of warped reasoning is female chauvinism: the belief that all men are evil rapists who oppress women, yatta-yatta. Bet our good ol' savior Jesus would just love to hear that upon his second coming. "You callin' me a rapist? Ooooh, b***h, I gonna SMITE yo' a**!"

I think the broader, and all-around fairer question would be, is it OUR fault you've been treated like second-class citizens?

Look, just because there are some dickheads at the top of corporations who still think women are second-rate people doesn't mean that all men think in this manner. By a "world that does not accept women on the same level as it accepts men", you must have been referring to just the corporate world. If you refer to all men, you pretty much deserve to have your innards ripped out for your overall false and grossly inane radical-feminist views. But then again, I'm just a communist, so what the hell would I know about the spirit of extreme equality?

But then there's another problem, you see. You women, at some point, just sort of... gave up. You sit around and complain about how you don't get equal pay, and yet you do little or nothing to fight it. What the hell ever happened to organized protest? Did you ever stop to think that maybe it would work if the problem at hand were tackled on a countrywide scale? What you need to do is... well, do something about it rather than blame all men for it and pretend to have a harder life. It gets work done and will get y'all to stop beating a dead horse. I know I sound harsh, but good God, if I complained that a fly was bugging me and didn't get up to kill it myself, I'd sound pretty stupid complaining about it too, wouldn't I?

Don't just stand around harping at men saying "oh we women have it soooo much worse than men because we're oppressed" and MAKE something of it. If you DON'T do anything to RECTIFY the PROBLEM, NOTHING will get DONE about it. Capische?

This thread's a bad idea... nothing ever comes out of the "Who has it worse?" subject except for obsolete and otherwise totally incorrect reasoning, it's a breeding ground for arguments supreme. stare Can't ANYONE just get along these days without having to blame eachother for their own problems? Good ol' Slip just states his opinion ONE time, and that gets the female chauvinists hotter than who the hell knows what.

For clarification: I am male, not a woman by any means.

Hawk: Hopefully, with the above clarification, you can see that I'm not taking my frustration out on ANYONE, as I don't have anything to be frustrated ABOUT. Regardless of that, very few women believe that ALL men are chauvinistic and oppressive, and blame does not sit on the men's shoulders of today, but on the shoulders of men of the past, who influenced society enough to institute a hegemony for the oppression of women.

Women just "gave up?" Where on earth did you get this idea? Everyday there are women all over the world who "do something about it" by getting educated, getting upper-echelon jobs, hell, by just VOTING. Organized protest? I'm not sure where you're posting from, but protesting unfair wages, job positions, spousal abuse, and the like happens ALL THE TIME, if you would just pay attention. And if there isn't anything big in the news, it's a GOOD THING, because it means things are changing and getting better.

You make it seem like women do nothing but sit around in book clubs and complain to each other about this stuff. Now while I'm sure some women do, there is a vast majority of others out in the workforce, in politics, in every facet of society trying to reverse the roles that have been set upon them for generations.

You see, this is the BIGGEST problem, that people (mostly male, but some females are guilty of this as well) don't recognize that there IS a problem. People as a whole think it's okay, that there's nothing wrong, that it doesn't matter. This is where there is trouble, and this is where people have to explain just how wrong things are, whether they are a man, a woman, or whatever else they may be.

I think in the Western World today that there is basically the same chances for both sexes. Now in some areas it is easier to be either a guy or a girl, but overall things are equal.

It's only when you get into countrys that still seem to believe that women are below men that you get disparity between the sexes.

As far as I can tell, everyone has very good arguments on the subject.

Personally, I don't give a rat's a** about my own situation in a scientifically proven Male dominated society. I know I'll be bottom rung because I'm lazy, I procrastinate, and I usually say the first thing that comes to mind - be it amusing, confusing or simply inappropriate in a highly "dumbed down" nature.
But, that is my nature.

I am fully aware of women out there who would and have made it their life's mission to excel in today's society, just as there are men out there who also wish to become successful.
Or lazy bums like yours truly.

Because today's world is full of hypocrisy and irony, there is no definitive stance to be taken in this debate. It's like trying to argue which society was more free: ancient Athens, or ancient Sparta. For The Original Hippy's (commonly known as "Yashawa/CHRIST") sake! "They" have been debating that subject for more than just a couple decades!
This topic is no different.

Prior to the French Revolution, the "Rule of Thumb" referred to the regulation that the beating stick a husband used on his oh-so-slightly rebellious wife was to be no more than the width of this thumb... just in case she were rendered unable to lay like a good little wife beneath him in bed, carry any number of infants to term WITHOUT slacking in housework, organise the house staff -or- keep the house in order herself, shop for clothing and building materials and a handful of crappy food, raise a horde of kids, puff up her husband's ego by supporting his political endeavors, be presentable in public, entertain guests who happen to drop by unannounced and - Oh Yeah! - NOT cry or show any sign of emotion when any member of her family is killed or "dies" because of their personal beliefs INCLUDING women's rights.

Of course, men aren't any different. They have to do whatever it takes to become successful WITHOUT getting caught, keep employees and coworkers in check, make sure the little woman behaves and does all her work like the good wife you know she should be, make sure the mistress keeps quiet and never EVER meets the wife, beat the pack of offspring your loins have produced into obedience, make sure the governess or nanny or priest is well compensated so they teach your little brats useful things like which political party is in the right and who/what God really is, provide for the entire family - which may include the in-laws - so they don't starve to death when the next hard winter or drought comes...

Yeah, I'd say that gives you a pretty good idea.
And yes, I am fully aware that a majority of those points do not apply to this day and age, but their off-shoots of child support, stuffing your parents into an old age home and using contraceptives do apply.

If a man were to have it easier than a woman, then good for him! He knows how to work the system!
If a woman were to have it easier than a man, then good for her! She knows how to work around the system!

Keep in mind folks - if there can be female Presidents/Prime Ministers (as applies to - to date and to my knowledge - India and Canada) in addition to more and more Househusbands, then who can say for sure who has it better when both sides keep switching all the time?
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