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 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:26 pm
I'm unsure as to what I want to do with the rest of my evening. I'm also still thinking with the wrong head, and would like to get my right head thinking again.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:27 pm
Statistically speaking
30, 000 Americans die each year from guns.
11, 000 of those are homocides.
The other 19, 000 are accidental and suicides.
2, 500 people roughly died in 9/11
5, 000 soldiers have died in the entire six year Iraq war.
So Statistically speaking Americans kill 28, 750 more of each other than terrorists do each year. So I ask, what do those statistics tell you?
@ Sanzo: Yeah, I'll be off in a bit.
@ Linny: Come out and watch the basketball with me and my firends! 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:30 pm
PANCAKE! *glomp huggle cling*
@Lin stop thinking with that head then! bad head bad (why did that sound wrong?)
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:31 pm
Tell me, exactly what does freedom mean...
Well, no one knows about it but me, her, and a friend of mine. My aunt is the owner of a local trailer park, which my friend Joe is an ex-tenant of. She banned him from the trailer park for jumping a fence. Sooo. Saturday, we are at my UNCLES MEMORIAL SERVICE, and I hear her complaining to someone about Joe, which I found very disrespectful (nevermind the bit about the dude in the leg brace) I walked up and told her off.
...if I'm not free to be as twisted as I want to be?
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:31 pm
Sanzoskitsune ....Lazy are you anti-gun control? Because when I imagine no gun control I imagine criminals getting guns way way way too easily for my liking edit: @Roland, I'm not allowed to argue with family, I literally get dragged away Yep, I'm directly opposed to gun control on all levels. However I do support gun education. The idea of making firearm safety a part of public education is something I'd agree with, because it would make things safer. Criminals already get guns easily. Either smuggled in from the borders or even made privately. It's ridiculously easy to make a simple and reliable gun, and even easier to make a cheap "zip gun". Right now I have a project of mine sitting on my desk that's a half-finished .22 carbine. Total cost for the whole build is 40$ if I built it "expedient", around 80 if I build it how I want to(good barrel, nice hot blued finish, doing engraving and such, etc.). Criminals very seldom actually buy legal firearms.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:33 pm
Surazal Dloc Statistically speaking 30, 000 Americans die each year from guns. 11, 000 of those are homocides. The other 19, 000 are accidental and suicides. 2, 500 people roughly died in 9/11 5, 000 soldiers have died in the entire six year Iraq war. So Statistically speaking Americans kill 28, 750 more of each other than terrorists do each year. So I ask, what do those statistics tell you? @ Sanzo: Yeah, I'll be off in a bit. @ Linny: Come out and watch the basketball with me and my firends! 3nodding Those statistics may be true, but make it so even those who follow the laws to legally carry guns with them can't own their guns anymore, crime would increase. Commie has a point. If you were to give everyone guns, do you think people would try to mug others on the street? Chances are, they would not. Hey Sanzo! Well, I gotta run really quick. I gotta hit a nearby store and get myself something small to eat. Peace for now guys!
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:35 pm
Surazal Dloc Statistically speaking 30, 000 Americans die each year from guns. 11, 000 of those are homocides. The other 19, 000 are accidental and suicides. 2, 500 people roughly died in 9/11 5, 000 soldiers have died in the entire six year Iraq war. So Statistically speaking Americans kill 28, 750 more of each other than terrorists do each year. So I ask, what do those statistics tell you? @ Sanzo: Yeah, I'll be off in a bit. @ Linny: Come out and watch the basketball with me and my firends! 3nodding Those statistics tell me that you don't know much about the related context, no offense. Your first figure does not differentiate between "justifiable homicide"(self defense) and actual homicide. Also, there are some 200,000,000 legally owned firearms in this country(millions more "illegal"), and around 80-100 million gun owners. That is the context regarding the issue. Tell me, what is 11,000 into 200,000,000? Pancake is also correct.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:36 pm
Um...hi/bye Pancake sweatdrop
*staying out of gun-law conversation*
Aaaaaanyway. I'ma head off in a bit. Gonna fiddle around with meh keyboard (piano-ish keyboard, not computer-ish) and then get my a** to sleep sweatdrop
So night all~
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:37 pm
Night invisible, have fun!
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:37 pm
Yes you are possibly right Pancake, or everyone will just go nuts and America will sink even lower. If there were no guns at all and authorites made it hard for illegal guns to be bought created etc it would make things much better. But hen again Cannada has just about as many guns per population and their deaths from guns barely compares to the 30, 000 I dont even think its 1,000.
Anywho I'm going out with friends now. Bye everyone.
EDIT @ Lazycommie: You obviously missed my point. My point was the fact guns exist so widespread in America is why people dies from them. If people didnt have guns they wouldn't beable to shoot each other regardless if it was "justifiable".
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:38 pm
@Roland, yeah I would've gone off and probably done some screaming and yeah
@Lazy just wanted to clarify, I shall be staying out of this convo from now on
nighty night invis, sleep well
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:38 pm
Surazal Dloc Yes you are possibly right Pancake, or everyone will just go nuts and America will sink even lower. If there were no guns at all and authorites made it hard for illegal guns to be bought created etc it would make things much better. But hen again Cannada has just about as many guns per population and their deaths from guns barely compares to the 30, 000 I dont even think its 1,000. Except that not once has gun control ever done anything but make the trends regarding violent crime get worse.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:40 pm
Sanzoskitsune @Lazy just wanted to clarify, I shall be staying out of this convo from now on No worries. I have no issue with those who don't like shooting and such. I only have issue with those who propose to disarm me. What're you up to?
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:41 pm
Roland: Yeah. Last semester in CI, we heard some crazy s**t from current events.
And just stuff in the local paper.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:42 pm
Surazal Dloc Yes you are possibly right Pancake, or everyone will just go nuts and America will sink even lower. If there were no guns at all and authorites made it hard for illegal guns to be bought created etc it would make things much better. But hen again Cannada has just about as many guns per population and their deaths from guns barely compares to the 30, 000 I dont even think its 1,000. Anywho I'm going out with friends now. Bye everyone. EDIT @ Lazycommie: You obviously missed my point. My point was the fact guns exist so widespread in America is why people dies from them. If people didnt have guns they wouldn't beable to shoot each other regardless if it was "justifiable". In response to edit: No, they'd just stab eachother. Or make guns and shoot eachother. Or club eachother to death. All are common in places where firearms are banned. Dead is dead is dead. Also, the most common weapon used to assault people in this country(holds true with most countries) is a blunt clubbing instrument. Shall we ban metal pipes? What about chair legs? A good smack upside the head with a tire iron will drop a man just as handily as a knife to the heart or a bullet to the brain.
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