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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:02 am
Angelic_Highlights
i really hate to say this but it never will come back for sale and whats more it is fun questing for a item. if you could get it in a day you would get bored of just posting. better to have to spend ages getting a item as when you do, you will be over the moon.

I agree with that!
It's a good feeling when you got the item you want for so long
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:12 am
Since there's no need to rehash what's already been said about the almost negative chance of a previous MC being reinstated, let me just say that if you don't have a guillotine (and this would imply that revolutions actually produced change for the better most of the time) , then your fantasy of a revolution is all for naught.


JUST LOOK AT THE FRENCH HISTORY PEOPLE.  

HellKnight Azrael


Chris de Medich

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:14 am
Sheer_Immortal
Well, let's run through your ideas then, shall we? Just for the sake of hypotheticality.

Apologies in advance for the wall of text, but it's broken up point by point...

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dont you think that there's never enough gold for the things you wish to purchase?
In response to this, the admins open up a million and one ways to make gold (as opposed to the million ways that we already have =P). Gold is flowing into the economy like it was water and a dam broke. You, and everyone else on Gaia, can easily make a million gold in one day. What happens next? Prices on non-commons skyrockets because people can now afford such higher prices, and everyone's still proportionately where they were before - you now have ten million gold, but the people who had ten million before now have ten billion, so you're still stuck on whatever rung of the economic ladder that you were on. (Possible exceptions to this may include the very first few people to discover that you can get a million in a day - there's a chance that they would get the gold and buy up some rare MC before it was taken out of the MP or bought by someone else. These people, however, would be few and far between.) You can buy all the commons you want, but the MCs and other old non-commons are still way out of your reach.

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we save gold to get the things we want, and in some cases it takes years?, I've seen a few people post how long, its taken them to get the things they quest for and usually it takes months... no years, to get an item
In response to this, the admins drop the price on everything. The maximum amount of gold an item may be put up for sale in the MP is 500g, and they take out the gifting and trade features. Some people will leave Gaia for good; others will buy everything they want, realize that it's kinda boring when there's nothing to work towards anymore and Gaia is boring when their friends aren't online, and they will either leave or become highly inactive. The drop in population means that Gaia can't get the big-money sponsors anymore, which means that they can't afford as many staff members - this leads to infrequent and poorly made updates, or no updates at all. Gaia will become a stagnant cesspool, wither, and die.

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whats worse is that I feel that Gaia, makes money off us by offering gaia cash
In response to this, Gaia either takes away the Cash feature or makes it so that you can buy Cash Shop items with gold. I read in a developer's journal (Fleep's, maybe? Can't remember which) that Gaia's barely breaking even, even with the MCs and the Cash Shop and the sponsors and the ads. For the result of this scenario, see above (the part about Gaia becoming a stagnant cesspool, withering, and dying).

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we get hacked someone could pretty much rob us of every item we work so hard for to collect
Well, that's what happens. The mods can work to get your account and items back, but it takes time. Don't want to get hacked? Don't give out your password or other personal info, and make your password really hard to figure out. And change it often.

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I dunno maybe I just want the gaian economy to change and maybe lower the amount of certain items that are rare, better yet for that fact why not bring such items back, im pretty sure there would be a lot of people that would be happy if they could get a second chance at those items rather than have to save millions of gold and hopefully acquire what they want.
The admins bring back the coveted Angelic Halo, an item which was worth upwards of 350 million gold, the last time I bothered to check (which was a loooong time ago). It's no longer rare, and everyone has a chance at it - as a matter of fact, it's coming in Daily Chance as often as flowers and crappy store items do. Now that everyone and their dog has one, it's no longer a status symbol - people realize how butt-ugly it really is, how it lacks in poses and general coolness in comparison to more recent MCs - and no one wants one anymore. The same thing happens with most of the earlier MCs, and now people have tons of gold with not much to spend it on. People leave 'cause they're bored, people leave 'cause their old items that they've either worked hard to earn or worked hard to keep are now worthless (and, by extension, their hard work is worthless), and Gaia once again withers and dies without the money of all the users that left. Plus the economy would crash like nothing else because of all the gold that's now worthless.

With that said, there's supposed to be a way to earn older MCs (along with backwings and probably other cool items, too) with a long and arduous quest through the Quest System, but they've been busy working on sponsor quest, events, and the Battle System recently. Also, if you bother to look at the how-to-make-Gaian-gold sticky that I so generously made for you and the other guild members, you'll find plenty of ways to make gold, and that doesn't even cover vending/exchanging ('cause I suck at it), and that's really the way to make gold around here. So, suck it up and be patient like the rest of us. 3nodding



alright then , you made your point its cool if you view things this way so i can understand the concept behind gaia and the way things are being run but i hope, that maybe things will change like said before.  
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:21 am
bluegrass cat
Chris de Medich
Artanus
Iconised Ghost
Artanus
*clap clap clap*
Wow. You are amazing. You figured out that Gaia is making money off of Gaia cash. Whats more, you showed us that five year old MCs are expensive as hell. But wait, there's more. This revolutionary brain of yours defined what a hacker does. Now we can all sleep easy thanks to you.


no need to be rude, everyone likes to complain about prices and dream about having the items they want

I know, I just don't have the patience to just agree with his unnecessary complaints right now. I'm really not trying to be so abject, I just don't take him seriously when all he's doing is stating the obvious and complaining.

I hate looking like an a*****e, but I'm allowed to be one every once in a while wink


this thread was created to be able to be ABLE to complain about those certain issues, I opened it as well to see if someone agreed with me and to see as well if there were items people would love to bring back to have, you dont need to be an a*****e, but oh wait you are, not only are you dissing me in my own thread you're trying to justify it, if you want to be an a*****e do it somewhere else. Also, people think different than you do and maybe not all of us agree to everything that gaia does, we abide by the rules because things are how they are, but maybe sometimes change can be good as well.


as a grown-up type person, i don't think artanus was being an a*****e.

i think he was being snarky, which is a prerequisite for surviving in this guild.

chris de meditch, you opened a thread and asked for opinions. you don't get to tell people to go somewhere else if they don't agree with YOUR opinion and are snarky about it.

big girl panties. get you some.

xd


might be funny to you, but I dont take it kindly that someone disrespects me in my own thread, sure if you have a different way of thinking by all means POST what you want to say its cool if you think differently than I do but, there is no need to be rude, I dislike it and I dont do it to anyone else, already got my grown up pair thanks anywho. mrgreen  

Chris de Medich


Chris de Medich

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:28 am
Mephistopheles Incarnate
Since there's no need to rehash what's already been said about the almost negative chance of a previous MC being reinstated, let me just say that if you don't have a guillotine (and this would imply that revolutions actually produced change for the better most of the time) , then your fantasy of a revolution is all for naught.


JUST LOOK AT THE FRENCH HISTORY PEOPLE.


hey... you're absolutely right lol, maybe I should quest for a guillotine, if there is one...
lol  
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:11 pm
Chris de Medich
bluegrass cat
Chris de Medich
Artanus
Iconised Ghost
Artanus
*clap clap clap*
Wow. You are amazing. You figured out that Gaia is making money off of Gaia cash. Whats more, you showed us that five year old MCs are expensive as hell. But wait, there's more. This revolutionary brain of yours defined what a hacker does. Now we can all sleep easy thanks to you.


no need to be rude, everyone likes to complain about prices and dream about having the items they want

I know, I just don't have the patience to just agree with his unnecessary complaints right now. I'm really not trying to be so abject, I just don't take him seriously when all he's doing is stating the obvious and complaining.

I hate looking like an a*****e, but I'm allowed to be one every once in a while wink


this thread was created to be able to be ABLE to complain about those certain issues, I opened it as well to see if someone agreed with me and to see as well if there were items people would love to bring back to have, you dont need to be an a*****e, but oh wait you are, not only are you dissing me in my own thread you're trying to justify it, if you want to be an a*****e do it somewhere else. Also, people think different than you do and maybe not all of us agree to everything that gaia does, we abide by the rules because things are how they are, but maybe sometimes change can be good as well.


as a grown-up type person, i don't think artanus was being an a*****e.

i think he was being snarky, which is a prerequisite for surviving in this guild.

chris de meditch, you opened a thread and asked for opinions. you don't get to tell people to go somewhere else if they don't agree with YOUR opinion and are snarky about it.

big girl panties. get you some.

xd


might be funny to you, but I dont take it kindly that someone disrespects me in my own thread, sure if you have a different way of thinking by all means POST what you want to say its cool if you think differently than I do but, there is no need to be rude, I dislike it and I dont do it to anyone else, already got my grown up pair thanks anywho. mrgreen


alrighty, let me try again.

AS A MOD i am telling you he wasn't being an a*****e. if you cannot handle people being snarky @ you in this guild, then maybe its not the guild for you. he wasn't "disrespecting" you. he was being himself and there's a difference.

also, like i already pm'ed you, DO NOT DOUBLE/TRIPLE post.

surely someone with their big girl panties snugly on can remember our rules.  

WastelandMama
Crew


Teka_The_Wanderer

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:25 pm
Yeah! Its the reward of hard-earned gold that makes it so special

..."hard-earned"... kind of.... smile  
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:25 pm
Mephistopheles Incarnate
Since there's no need to rehash what's already been said about the almost negative chance of a previous MC being reinstated, let me just say that if you don't have a guillotine (and this would imply that revolutions actually produced change for the better most of the time) , then your fantasy of a revolution is all for naught.


JUST LOOK AT THE FRENCH HISTORY PEOPLE.
Russian revolution was better. ninja  

tsukasa_the_quiet


WastelandMama
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:10 am
[Tsukasa567]
Mephistopheles Incarnate
Since there's no need to rehash what's already been said about the almost negative chance of a previous MC being reinstated, let me just say that if you don't have a guillotine (and this would imply that revolutions actually produced change for the better most of the time) , then your fantasy of a revolution is all for naught.


JUST LOOK AT THE FRENCH HISTORY PEOPLE.
Russian revolution was better. ninja


naw, that was just SAD! i mean, the czar and czarina so didn't deserve to die that way! and neither did their children! crying  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:56 pm
Chris de Medich


this thread was created to be able to be ABLE to complain about those certain issues, I opened it as well to see if someone agreed with me and to see as well if there were items people would love to bring back to have, you dont need to be an a*****e, but oh wait you are, not only are you dissing me in my own thread you're trying to justify it, if you want to be an a*****e do it somewhere else. Also, people think different than you do and maybe not all of us agree to everything that gaia does, we abide by the rules because things are how they are, but maybe sometimes change can be good as well.


First off: amazing job with he run on sentence there. What surprises me is that you actually put a period at the very end.
Chris de Medich
Also, people think different than you do


Exactly, and people can't think differently than you too. So what was a the point in even saying that?

Chris de Medich
might be funny to you, but I don't take it kindly that someone disrespects me in my own thread

You're talking about the thread as if it's your own little country and you're the dictator that rules it. I'm sorry, but until we have monarchy based threads, it doesn't really matter if someone else's opinion is disrespectful to you.  

Artanus


angel_half82
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:43 pm
LOL the most commas EVER!! I frikkin loved the level of butt hurt. lol  
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:36 pm
Chris de Medich
Artanus
Iconised Ghost
Artanus
*clap clap clap*
Wow. You are amazing. You figured out that Gaia is making money off of Gaia cash. Whats more, you showed us that five year old MCs are expensive as hell. But wait, there's more. This revolutionary brain of yours defined what a hacker does. Now we can all sleep easy thanks to you.


no need to be rude, everyone likes to complain about prices and dream about having the items they want

I know, I just don't have the patience to just agree with his unnecessary complaints right now. I'm really not trying to be so abject, I just don't take him seriously when all he's doing is stating the obvious and complaining.

I hate looking like an a*****e, but I'm allowed to be one every once in a while wink


this thread was created to be able to be ABLE to complain about those certain issues, I opened it as well to see if someone agreed with me and to see as well if there were items people would love to bring back to have, you dont need to be an a*****e, but oh wait you are, not only are you dissing me in my own thread you're trying to justify it, if you want to be an a*****e do it somewhere else. Also, people think different than you do and maybe not all of us agree to everything that gaia does, we abide by the rules because things are how they are, but maybe sometimes change can be good as well.


If you want a thread to complain in, there actually is a thread right here in GD called Rent, Rave, and Vent...or something similar. I complain about stupid things entirely out of my control that are the way they are for a reason ALL THE TIME in there.  

Pachelbel Canon


Metalic_Noodles

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:54 pm

No one has yet mentioned the German revolution against the world, most races, all but one religion, with the help of those he intended to dispose of later.

It even had it's pluses! Like a major leap in genetic reasearch and data, still worshiped by genetic scientists!


Gaia=free site.
Gaia=lots of servers and server load.
Gaia =team of devs, team of admin, teams of artists for the story and games, and even the poor unpaid mods.

That all costs money, so they beg and bribe us to give them some. They were called donation items for a reason. It was a gift of thanks for helping them out. Which quickly turned into a collectible thanks to the market, and that this site has rewards for just surfing(gold).

~Metalic_Noodles
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:07 am
Artanus
Chris de Medich


this thread was created to be able to be ABLE to complain about those certain issues, I opened it as well to see if someone agreed with me and to see as well if there were items people would love to bring back to have, you dont need to be an a*****e, but oh wait you are, not only are you dissing me in my own thread you're trying to justify it, if you want to be an a*****e do it somewhere else. Also, people think different than you do and maybe not all of us agree to everything that gaia does, we abide by the rules because things are how they are, but maybe sometimes change can be good as well.


First off: amazing job with he run on sentence there. What surprises me is that you actually put a period at the very end.
Chris de Medich
Also, people think different than you do


Exactly, and people can't think differently than you too. So what was a the point in even saying that?

Chris de Medich
might be funny to you, but I don't take it kindly that someone disrespects me in my own thread

You're talking about the thread as if it's your own little country and you're the dictator that rules it. I'm sorry, but until we have monarchy based threads, it doesn't really matter if someone else's opinion is disrespectful to you.


Biggest cup of ******** style="text-decoration: underline">EVER!
 

xxKiria-Kunxx


angel_half82
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:19 am
Komui Lee XII
Artanus
Chris de Medich


this thread was created to be able to be ABLE to complain about those certain issues, I opened it as well to see if someone agreed with me and to see as well if there were items people would love to bring back to have, you dont need to be an a*****e, but oh wait you are, not only are you dissing me in my own thread you're trying to justify it, if you want to be an a*****e do it somewhere else. Also, people think different than you do and maybe not all of us agree to everything that gaia does, we abide by the rules because things are how they are, but maybe sometimes change can be good as well.


First off: amazing job with he run on sentence there. What surprises me is that you actually put a period at the very end.
Chris de Medich
Also, people think different than you do


Exactly, and people can't think differently than you too. So what was a the point in even saying that?

Chris de Medich
might be funny to you, but I don't take it kindly that someone disrespects me in my own thread

You're talking about the thread as if it's your own little country and you're the dictator that rules it. I'm sorry, but until we have monarchy based threads, it doesn't really matter if someone else's opinion is disrespectful to you.


Biggest cup of ******** style="text-decoration: underline">EVER!


I'm almost positive that you didn't just tell Artanus to shut the ******** up. Please prove me right.  
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