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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:23 am


no,I don't really think we should do that cause then everyone would be smart and then pretty much it would just make the world a bit odd
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:10 pm


disfunkygurl
no,I don't really think we should do that cause then everyone would be smart and then pretty much it would just make the world a bit odd


Think you could elaborate a bit?

Cornelius loh Quatious


Damion Dracul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:04 pm


dboyzero
But if everyone had such IQs, don't you think that they would find ways to overcome those side effects?

Side note: Einstein couldn't do simple equations because he was incredibly bad at math, not as a drawback from being a genius Also, although I'm not too sure about how factual this is, I've heard that after some sort of testing, scientists have discovered that aside from him being ridiculously stubborn with his problems, Einstein's brain also operated about five times faster than a normal human being's. Back on topic.

I think the more important side-effects we should be worrying about are the unintended ones that arise from tinkering with DNA. We still aren't sure what each part of our genetic code does, and even if we find a way to make ourselves smarter, we may mess up the genes for something that we won't see until far down the line.

...thats not true, einstein was a genius, especially in math

e=mc2 happens to be math,

he could do long equation no problem but he could not do simple equations of his life depended on him
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:40 pm


Well, the famous equation of relativity technically is physics, not math, although the correlation between the two fields would cause some blurring. Nonetheless, he personally expressed difficulty with mathematics, despite having some success in his studies. Math was not his strongest suit, physics was.

Einstein's brain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein's_brain

In any case, this is getting off topic. If you wish to further the discussion of Einstein, please create another thread or take it to the PM system.

Cornelius loh Quatious


Izzabot

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:34 pm


I don't think that any one person can make a decision like that. It also reminds of the writings of Kurt Vonnegut and Ray Bradbury. People mean well when they try to create a utopian society where everyone is equal but it never really works. People weren't meant to be all alike, life is more interesting than that.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:23 pm


I don't think enhancing the intelligence is important becuase for me, as long as you are happy with your life and you did your best it is enough. God won't ask us when we go to heaven if we are geniuses or what, I think he would ask us how we did it.. We have a saying "10% on what we did in our life, 90% how happy we are in making our life."

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:39 pm


Izzabot
I don't think that any one person can make a decision like that. It also reminds of the writings of Kurt Vonnegut and Ray Bradbury. People mean well when they try to create a utopian society where everyone is equal but it never really works. People weren't meant to be all alike, life is more interesting than that.


Did Vonnegut make a Utopian style book? Hmmm I'll have to look into this.

ANYWHO! Dboy, we aren't actually that far off from making this possible. It's called genetic engineering, hun. Scientists around the world are getting closer and closer each day to making it possible.

Actually, we were just discussing this kind of topic in my Lit class. Without people realizing it, more and more are we becoming a perfect society. (Although, I do believe we will never be "perfect").

I think it'd be horrible if we started engineering young children to become geniuses. Instead of remembering things like toys or playing with their friends or things like that, they're going to remember when they learned their first algebraic equation or s**t like that. I certainly, would not want a childhood like that. It's boring.

Plus, if everyone did have an IQ of 200+...we'd all be drones. Just machines. All we would care about is using that intelligence and how to make it better...we'd have no personality. (Or, at least, not a good one). Think of Brave New World, or The Island, or other Utopian stories...they were all the same...all perfect machines living in a perfect world without change or feeling.
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:47 pm


Well, how close we are to genetic engineering human children to be geniuses is all relative. If by "close" you mean that we are making large advances in the field, then yes, I suppose we are. But I doubt that I or anyone else in this forum will be alive to see the generation of baby geniuses grow up.

Also, I'm not sure how necessary it is to have a Utopia at all with a smarter society. I don't know about "perfection," but humankind has been progressing and advancing the average IQ and lifespan for more than a million years now. In my opinion, a world with smart people will more or less be a normal society, albeit with more advanced technology and newer culture based on years of trends and social events.

Having more intelligence doesn't necessarily mean being less emotional, although people see to think that a great deal. I go to school with incredibly intelligent people, and most all of them are very passionate about some cause or another, and are very emotional when you tread on their toes. The future as portayed in science fiction is still just fiction.

Cornelius loh Quatious


Miss Gish

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:31 pm


dboyzero
Well, how close we are to genetic engineering human children to be geniuses is all relative. If by "close" you mean that we are making large advances in the field, then yes, I suppose we are. But I doubt that I or anyone else in this forum will be alive to see the generation of baby geniuses grow up.

Also, I'm not sure how necessary it is to have a Utopia at all with a smarter society. I don't know about "perfection," but humankind has been progressing and advancing the average IQ and lifespan for more than a million years now. In my opinion, a world with smart people will more or less be a normal society, albeit with more advanced technology and newer culture based on years of trends and social events.

Having more intelligence doesn't necessarily mean being less emotional, although people see to think that a great deal. I go to school with incredibly intelligent people, and most all of them are very passionate about some cause or another, and are very emotional when you tread on their toes. The future as portayed in science fiction is still just fiction.


You're quite right, dboy. But then again, who are we to say what is normal or perfect? I think you and I have very different views on this. I'm viewing this as if it were a book like Brave New World 'cause I just finished reading it. lol. But I do definitely unterstand where you're coming from.

An intelligent society could be as normal as ours. Actually, if you really look at our society today, it isn't at all normal. It's extremely diverse. So, who knows whether or not this intelligent society will turn out to be normal or diverse. Guess we'll never find out, eh?

Also, there's always the question of what is "normal" or "diverse" or "intelligent" or "ignorant", so on and so forth.

None of us can really answer this question to an extent that explains perfectly of how it applies to this world.

(Not sure if any of this makes sense...it's late and I'm tired lol)
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:26 am


i think its a good idea i suffer from deslexia and it wasnt disscoverd untill i had finished my gcses which most of them i failed and i allways wished i was a little smarter i tend to forget thing very easily sad

NickCpointless


wonderdummy

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:42 pm


Who knows somewhere that I can get my IQ tested,

i've never had it, and my teachersall think i'm some sort of genious
('cept I can't even spell it) I say,
let evolution decide where to take us(not a proven theory) everyone I've seen,
has always thought there would be side effects
question
There isn't long before we can genetically modify someone so that we're smarter
But It;s a long time before we can do it legally (blasted politics... Who invented it?)
and correctly






Phew'
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:16 pm


It would be interesting to genetically engineer people to be smarter, because we would be able to solve some of the problems in the world. However it would probably cause just as many problems as it solves.
I do think that smart people tend to be kind of odd...
In middle school we had special classes for the smart kids(well in high school too), but it was the same bunch of kids all day. Trust me, weird doesn't even begin to describe it.

Hiitachin Kaoru


Shadowsmom

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:07 am


I think that enhancing our children is a great idea. One who lives in the United States our schools have gone down hill and our children with it. If we can improve the children we will inturn improve the school system.
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:58 am


Personally, I'm all for enhancing human beings through genetic engineering, be it intelligence wise, or physical wise.

My reasoning mainly stems from counter-reasonings for opposition towards genetic engineering.

a) Some will reason that genetic engineering is against "God's will" or natural order. Needless to say, if we were given the power and knowledge to do it, it is definitely within "God's will" or natural order.

b) Genetic engineering leads to the unknown. Indeed, that's the whole point of science, really. Venturing into the unknown, and learning something extremely valuable from it. I believe that genetically enhanced human beings will be the next step in human evolution. I feel no fear for the unknown, but instead, I feel reverance and curiosity.

Einstein's IQ level was estimated to be about 300. He was just one man, but the advances that resulted from his ideas and theories are immeasurable. He fixed that 7% error that was found in recorded data of extreme phenomena(speed of light, etc.). He proposed that energy was mass, and mass was energy(E=mc^2).

Just one man, with a high IQ level, and not much more(he was a failure in school), and he had aided Mankind so much. Imagine if we had 6.6 billion people with the same IQ level in the future. If one man could push science so far, I shudder to think what 6.6 billion of them can do. But I shudder not in fear, but in anticipation. I CAN'T WAIT!

dothackRAVE


[P]ocahontas

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:52 am


My Oppinion on this... is that if you artificially inhance the IQ it's unnatural... And... An increase in intellegents would mean an increase in searching for a outlet for intelegence, which means increased curiousity... which means someones gonna find a way to detroy our earth or ruin it even more..
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