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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:00 pm
Vampires are fictional. They are not real. Therefore for someone to call themself a vampire would be idiotic. KaguraOfTheWind Actually, a vampire would not have to kill. If they did kill, a single victim could meet their needs for several days. The vampire does not need a full person's worth of blood. With a couple of victims used alternately, a vampire could feed indefinatly. urzza_kangaa she is right!? eek i never thought others would know that You can't "know that" about a vampire. Since they are fictional, anything is possible. Hell, I could write a book about vampires that only need to drink blood once a year, and no one could say it's not true because vampires themselves aren't true. Even if someone wore black and dyed their hair black (I realize not all vampires do this, ut it's the day-to-day stereotype), even if they have super-pale skin and are sensitive to snlight, and even if they get red contacts and have their teeth sharpened, and even if they're one of the people that need blood transfusions every so often due to illness to live, they would still not be a vampire. I love vampire stories, but they're just stories. Anyone that considers themself a vampire or believes that they exist has zero respect from me.
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:02 pm
-_- i see.... so you like vampires but don't think there real..... i guess i cant say much to you without showing disrespect so i'll keep my self from talking to you...... heart
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:19 pm
urzza_kangaa -_- i see.... so you like vampires but don't think there real..... i guess i cant say much to you without showing disrespect so i'll keep my self from talking to you...... heart Does that mean that you believe vampires really exist? Define your opinion on the matter and support your argument. So far, YOU, the creator of the thread, has showed the least intelligent input of all. This will not do, not at all.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:20 pm
ok disregarding the least intelagent part.... i have had first hand xpeariance with several vampires, first of if they don't want to be found they can keep themselfs hiden they can feed in moderated amounts as not to kill somone, second a vampire dose not need to drink blood they just have a very large liking for it, third you only need to drink another vampieric persons blood to become one.... they must also have done the same.... fourth vampires do not have unnatural ability there limited like us the only thing the i some cases have are higtend sences...... five this hole wooden steak and holy water is a bunch of bull..... sixth if you drink blood an grow a craving for it then you naturaly want more....
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:00 pm
urzza_kangaa ok disregarding the least intelagent part.... i have had first hand xpeariance with several vampires, first of if they don't want to be found they can keep themselfs hiden they can feed in moderated amounts as not to kill somone, second a vampire dose not need to drink blood they just have a very large liking for it, third you only need to drink another vampieric persons blood to become one.... they must also have done the same.... fourth vampires do not have unnatural ability there limited like us the only thing the i some cases have are higtend sences...... five this hole wooden steak and holy water is a bunch of bull..... sixth if you drink blood an grow a craving for it then you naturaly want more.... So you're telling me, and everyone who reads this, that you have had ACTUAL contact with REAL vampires. Pardon me, but you're going to need a lot more than that to convince us. The only place where I've seen vampires being mentioned as real creatures are tabloids like the National Enquirer, not the most credible news source. Now, is there any way you can PROVE to us that you've dealt with vampires? Because if this whole thread was just your way of expressing how much you like them, my finger is hovering over the DELETE button like a bee on a pot of honey. Intelligent discussion is one thing, but fan girling all over the place does not belong here. If vampires really existed, why have their been no reports of attacks? Something like that would cause a media field day, especially if they don't kill their victims. Even if they were unconscious, they'd be pretty curious asto why they have holes in their neck or body and why they're missing blood all of a sudden. Also, if they really don't want to be found, then what makes YOU so special that you've dealt with them? Unless you're a vampire as well, I doubt that they'd want to associate with something that they FEED on. And if you are a vampire, and vampires don't want to be found, why on Earth would you go to a PUBLIC forum, which is viewed by MILLIONS of people, and create a topic ABOUT vampires? I'm sorry, but you've got a way to go if you want us to take you seriously.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:42 am
a couple of things before I sart. I drink Blood and am not a vampire, and one of my friends IS a vampire.
Vampirism is an actual genetic disorder that causes sensitivity to light via the eyes and incredibly pale skin. The gums recceed from the teeth, giving the appearence of fangs, though the sufferer doesn't really have fangs. they don't really need blood, but for some strange reason drinking blood adds some missing component to their bodies, giving their skin a healthier color.
So there. Vampires exist, but not what you think of them as. the basis for the modern Vampire story is in Vlad the impaler, a minor nobel in Translyvania. he would ruthlessly slaughter anyone who broke his laws, and once impaled an entire village in his dinning room and calmly sat down to eat real food. (Sorry for any spelling errors, I'm really upset right now, so pardon the errors)
I drink my own blood and that of animals, but never will I drink another persons...the danger of contracting a disease keeps me from attempting it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:23 am
they kinda scare me.... i dont know why you would drink someones blood....no offense to anyone who is one i just dont understand it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:32 pm
well its hard to prove over the inter net but the reason they haven't been reported befor is because the are very good at deception and the people who have incounterd vampires are ither drunk stoned at the time.... in some cases people have been threatend..... and there has been vampires in news papers like the london free press.... there was a young man who merderd and drank the blood of his friends parents...... he is serving life in prison....
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:57 pm
Okay, taking Gilded Lotus' post into account, it is possible to suffer from a condition which makes one SEEM vampiric, but this in no way makes someone an ACTUAL vampire, as defined by Quote: the reanimated body of a dead person believed to come from the grave at night and suck the blood of persons asleep as this definition is SUPERNATURAL in nature, which I am arguing against. [link]
Diseases which are often interpreted as "vampiric" include rabies (for the frothing of the mouth and violent tendencies), porphyria (for sensitivity to light), and Renfield syndrome (a mental disorder which causes an obsession with blood and the drinking of it). Lotus, it seems to me that you and your friend probably suffer from Renfield Syndrome, and it should be good to know that it was actually discredited as an actual disease, and that it is now defined as a standard obsessive-compulsive disorder, and is easily treatable. Urza, the case you're refering do does not prove vampirism, it just proves that one person had some severe mental issues, possibly suffering from Renfield Syndrome as well. Good at deception? People have been threatened? The Free-Masons and the Illuminati could be argued in the same fashion, and none of these groups can be proved to exist. You still haven't answered my question of how YOU know they exist, and why YOU are willing to speak about your encounter.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:39 pm
SoullessTenshi KaguraOfTheWind Actually, a vampire would not have to kill. If they did kill, a single victim could meet their needs for several days. The vampire does not need a full person's worth of blood. With a couple of victims used alternately, a vampire could feed indefinatly. urzza_kangaa she is right!? eek i never thought others would know that You can't "know that" about a vampire. Since they are fictional, anything is possible. Hell, I could write a book about vampires that only need to drink blood once a year, and no one could say it's not true because vampires themselves aren't true. Yes you can know that. Fictional vampires are reanimated humans and thus human science can show that a real vampire could do this based on human needs and limitations. For example, "your book" would make no sense based on how blood use works in the human body. It's metabolism would be so low that it would basically be a fraction above a corpse and it would move about as much as one. Lotus, drinking animal isn't any safer, you can still catch a lot of nasty diseases.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:45 pm
...except that since it's fiction, you could easily say that it's the MAGICAL and SUPERNATURAL properties of blood that allows a vampire to feed once a year. Or even that vampires don't really drink the blood, but the spirit within the blood. If you're going solely based off of science, drinking blood does absolutely NOTHING for anyone, since it doesn't contain nearly enough or the right kind of nutrients to sustain a human being indefinitely.
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:46 pm
My personal opinion- I have to say I really do like vampires. Weather or not it’s because I’m gothic I don’t know. Perhaps it is the great powers they are said to have, honestly I don’t know why I like them so much. However my liking for them does not mean I think they are real nor do I think I am one..
In General- Well I’m not an expert on vampires but a lot of what I heard contradicts with the original idea. Weakness, looks, powers, they all change a lot so it’s hard to say what’s right. From what I heard the original Dracula was an inspired by a King((or I think it was))way back when, that use too kill his enemy and stick a pole through their stomach. He’d collected their blood that dripped down the pole and would drink it. The name Dracula was also inspired by his ((Forgive me if the details are a bit off it was a while since I read about him)) Real Vampires- No there are none I’m sorry. But like Ever-Infamous Kojiro-san said; there are illness that could make one seam vampric ((I suppose I should do a bit more research before posting again. I fill dumb for not having complete information..))
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:46 pm
Shearis In General- Well I’m not an expert on vampires but a lot of what I heard contradicts with the original idea. Weakness, looks, powers, they all change a lot so it’s hard to say what’s right. From what I heard the original Dracula was an inspired by a King((or I think it was))way back when, that use too kill his enemy and stick a pole through their stomach. He’d collected their blood that dripped down the pole and would drink it. The name Dracula was also inspired by his ((Forgive me if the details are a bit off it was a while since I read about him)) Vlad Tepes aka Vlad the Impaler, he ruled Wallachia on three occasions. He was the son of Vlad Dracul and thus sometimes called Vlad Draculea.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:26 am
also if you ever read the book that inspierd draula being protriad as a vampire and you belive it you are being miss gided drakula never lived in the castle to book said he did also he had never been in the region in question. the origine of vampires stories are unknown but the did start somwere in asia.
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~ murderd in cold blood ~
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:07 pm
i know people who beleive themselves to be vampires, and they are totally kind to the people they care about... anyone else had better watch out, i dont know if the bloodlust is real and yes vampires are violent creatures but they are not heartless demons that claim your souls.
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