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LadyAceAwsome

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:38 pm


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:22 pm


Abortion should never be done except in extreme cases. It has been known to damage the person for the rest of their lives, physically and mentally. Hundreds upon hundreds of calls for adoption go unanswered every year. If someone does not want a child (which is pretty sad in and of itself), there are definitely people out there to take care of him/her.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:33 pm


spearquest
abortion has been a heavy debate for a long time now, and many feel strongly about whether it should be allowed or not. myself, i don't believe in killing a child cuz the child can always be giving to a family who does want it. but i also believe that under certain circumstances abortion should be allowed.

In a situation when a woman is raped and somehow becomes pregnant, should she be allowed to have an abortion since it was a traumatic experiance and it was concieved without her choice, or should she have to carry the child til birth then decide whether to keep it or give it up?



I totally agree if a woman is raped then the child will repersent nothing but pain and their is a very high chance of the child growing up unloved or even hated if not that it might make the kid have a very hard life and that would be unfair to raise a kid like that
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:06 pm


I believe that abortion should be an open option. I myself would NEVER have one, but if a woman is traumatized by a rape, or a molestation of some kind, I believe she should have the choice to abort, adopt, or keep the baby. I DON'T believe that abortion should be used as a form of birth control. Say a teenage girl and her boyfriend had sex, but for some reason the condom didn't work, and she became pregnant. In a case like that, I don't believe the girl should get an abortion. If she is really incapable of caring for the child, adoption is the best choice. There are many couples out there who are infertile, and would LOVE to have a newborn.

chaos-harbor


Ms._Fashion_Victim_2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:51 pm


There are different reasons to get an abortion besides rape or someone not wanting their baby.
a co-worker of mine got pregnant, but when she was about 5 months pregnant the doctor told her that the baby was killing her. the baby was affecting her liver and if she didn't get an abortion then she would die along with the baby. I went to a priest from my church to see his standpoint on it and he said that an abortion would be wrong, because this was god's will.

in cases like these I think getting an abortion would be reasonable.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:33 pm


I dont believe in Abortion at all because I agree their are people out their that cant have kids and that want kids and would love the baby that a mom does not want them and their the adoption for any circumstances. People who would want to have kids would love to have the unwanted baby.

MinaKurasaki


Deppfan

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:01 pm


Doofus Maximus
Murder is wrong. I dont give a crap if you were raped. God Obviously wanted you to have the baby.


Yeah, so this God of yours has created humans, and let them "go forth and prosper" to the extent that there are over 6 billion of us, and gives a s**t about one little sperm and one little egg. Or maybe... he wanted that person to be raped. Yeah, sure. So, what, the woman's supposed to learn some all-important saving grace of a lesson of forgiveness.and be glorified and all that nonsense. She was raped! A man forced himself upon her, and this "God" is just going to let all this happen? What a crock.

Obviously, this God does have a sick and twisted sense of humor.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:02 am


we can all have our opinions (personally, I'm pro-choice), we are all entitled to them. but I hate to appear to be judging people. be it a posative or negative judgement, it's simply not my place. who am I really to pronounce someone as evil because she prevented a fetus from growing inside her. that's her business. now, I could model my morals around what to do or what not to do in my own life based on her example and her circumstances and what I feel about it, but to TELL her she is wrong or evil or a murderer would be presumptious of me as tho I'm better than her because of this.

none of us are righteous, and it is vanity and pride that make us think we are so. didnt jesus even say 'let him without sin cast the first stone'? I may not be a christian, but I do think jesus was a wise and learned man. I think people in general need to get off their high horses and mind their own affairs and stop worrying what everyone else is doing.

Calypsophia


MiStiEM00K

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:09 am


i think that abortion is wrong on all levels.
if you don't want a kid, keep your legs shut ... it's that simple.
and if the woman WAS raped ...
why kill an innocent child that had nothing to do with the traumatic experience?!
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:09 pm


MiStiEM00K
i think that abortion is wrong on all levels.
if you don't want a kid, keep your legs shut ... it's that simple.
and if the woman WAS raped ...
why kill an innocent child that had nothing to do with the traumatic experience?!


abstinance is certainly the best policy for more than one reason. but when it comes to rape, I would totally understand the desire to abort. rape is a frightening experience. you feel threatened, invaded, and vulnerable. and I know if it was me, every time the child would kick would be a reminder of what happened. rape can totally mess a person up psychologically. being a parent can be very stressful even under the best of conditions, and it would be a very human reaction to start feeling resentment towards the child... if nothing else perhaps just for having to have your freedom ripped out from under you and life changed forever all because of this rapist, when maybe you hadnt even planned on having kids at all. when you have a child, your whole life changes. things you once did and enjoyed you cant do anymore. yeah, I can see it... hating the rapist-father and resenting the resultant child. every time the child cried in the middle of the night, the very sight of the child might remind the woman of that traumatic experience. heh..what if the child had the rapists eyes?

now, I'm not saying it would be right to resent the child. the circumstances of it's birth are not its fault. but emotions arent logical. no one is perfect, and people feel what they feel, be it right or wrong... it's not a choice.

Calypsophia


MiStiEM00K

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:16 pm


lilraine
MiStiEM00K
i think that abortion is wrong on all levels.
if you don't want a kid, keep your legs shut ... it's that simple.
and if the woman WAS raped ...
why kill an innocent child that had nothing to do with the traumatic experience?!


abstinance is certainly the best policy for more than one reason. but when it comes to rape, I would totally understand the desire to abort. rape is a frightening experience. you feel threatened, invaded, and vulnerable. and I know if it was me, every time the child would kick would be a reminder of what happened. rape can totally mess a person up psychologically. being a parent can be very stressful even under the best of conditions, and it would be a very human reaction to start feeling resentment towards the child... if nothing else perhaps just for having to have your freedom ripped out from under you and life changed forever all because of this rapist, when maybe you hadnt even planned on having kids at all. when you have a child, your whole life changes. things you once did and enjoyed you cant do anymore. yeah, I can see it... hating the rapist-father and resenting the resultant child. every time the child cried in the middle of the night, the very sight of the child might remind the woman of that traumatic experience. heh..what if the child had the rapists eyes?

now, I'm not saying it would be right to resent the child. the circumstances of it's birth are not its fault. but emotions arent logical. no one is perfect, and people feel what they feel, be it right or wrong... it's not a choice.


but abortion isn't the only choice
and fine
you didn;t want the child
dont kill it
put it up for adoption
give it a chance for life
don't take it;s life away just because YOU had a traumatic experience.
that's so selfish
to kill an innocent life
because YOU didn;t want it
because YOU didn;t choose to have it
because YOU went through something horrible
the child must suffer as well?!
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:47 pm


MiStiEM00K
lilraine
MiStiEM00K
i think that abortion is wrong on all levels.
if you don't want a kid, keep your legs shut ... it's that simple.
and if the woman WAS raped ...
why kill an innocent child that had nothing to do with the traumatic experience?!


abstinance is certainly the best policy for more than one reason. but when it comes to rape, I would totally understand the desire to abort. rape is a frightening experience. you feel threatened, invaded, and vulnerable. and I know if it was me, every time the child would kick would be a reminder of what happened. rape can totally mess a person up psychologically. being a parent can be very stressful even under the best of conditions, and it would be a very human reaction to start feeling resentment towards the child... if nothing else perhaps just for having to have your freedom ripped out from under you and life changed forever all because of this rapist, when maybe you hadnt even planned on having kids at all. when you have a child, your whole life changes. things you once did and enjoyed you cant do anymore. yeah, I can see it... hating the rapist-father and resenting the resultant child. every time the child cried in the middle of the night, the very sight of the child might remind the woman of that traumatic experience. heh..what if the child had the rapists eyes?

now, I'm not saying it would be right to resent the child. the circumstances of it's birth are not its fault. but emotions arent logical. no one is perfect, and people feel what they feel, be it right or wrong... it's not a choice.


but abortion isn't the only choice
and fine
you didn;t want the child
dont kill it
put it up for adoption
give it a chance for life
don't take it;s life away just because YOU had a traumatic experience.
that's so selfish
to kill an innocent life
because YOU didn;t want it
because YOU didn;t choose to have it
because YOU went through something horrible
the child must suffer as well?!


ok, first of all YOU need not make this a personal issue. I can tell you are young. second of all, what I explained in that text is the simple fact that people are fallible and you cant blame them for feeling certain feelings. YES it is a selfish attitude, but *as I said* people will feel what they feel. it's a simple fact.

Calypsophia


MiStiEM00K

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:08 pm


lilraine
MiStiEM00K
lilraine
MiStiEM00K
i think that abortion is wrong on all levels.
if you don't want a kid, keep your legs shut ... it's that simple.
and if the woman WAS raped ...
why kill an innocent child that had nothing to do with the traumatic experience?!


abstinance is certainly the best policy for more than one reason. but when it comes to rape, I would totally understand the desire to abort. rape is a frightening experience. you feel threatened, invaded, and vulnerable. and I know if it was me, every time the child would kick would be a reminder of what happened. rape can totally mess a person up psychologically. being a parent can be very stressful even under the best of conditions, and it would be a very human reaction to start feeling resentment towards the child... if nothing else perhaps just for having to have your freedom ripped out from under you and life changed forever all because of this rapist, when maybe you hadnt even planned on having kids at all. when you have a child, your whole life changes. things you once did and enjoyed you cant do anymore. yeah, I can see it... hating the rapist-father and resenting the resultant child. every time the child cried in the middle of the night, the very sight of the child might remind the woman of that traumatic experience. heh..what if the child had the rapists eyes?

now, I'm not saying it would be right to resent the child. the circumstances of it's birth are not its fault. but emotions arent logical. no one is perfect, and people feel what they feel, be it right or wrong... it's not a choice.


but abortion isn't the only choice
and fine
you didn;t want the child
dont kill it
put it up for adoption
give it a chance for life
don't take it;s life away just because YOU had a traumatic experience.
that's so selfish
to kill an innocent life
because YOU didn;t want it
because YOU didn;t choose to have it
because YOU went through something horrible
the child must suffer as well?!


ok, first of all YOU need not make this a personal issue. I can tell you are young. second of all, what I explained in that text is the simple fact that people are fallible and you cant blame them for feeling certain feelings. YES it is a selfish attitude, but *as I said* people will feel what they feel. it's a simple fact.


yes people will feel what they feel
but sometimes people have to push their emotions aside
when dealing with another human life, ESPECIALLY one that has nothing to do with your physcological pain.
feelings CAN be helped with treatment
but once you take a life away
it CANT be brought back
i may be turning this into a personal matter
but anything and everything about a baby is anything but impersonal
human life is personal on all levels
and from my standpoint, i KNOW there are many other alternate options to abortion. and along with your emotions now ... after abortion MORE physcological pain will be added as in addition to being raped, you have now killed an innocent human being.
it's a simple fact.
and just because "im young" doesnt mean i dont have a good point
age has nothing to do with your opinions
and my age-group is the on being targeted at the moment
we are the most vulnerable
and it's better we form opinions now . . .
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:03 pm


I'm not arguing your points. if you payed attention, you would see that. tho what you're talking about is easier said than done. if they're strong enough emotions tend to rule people, even to the point of being irrational.

and I dont appreciate this being made personal.. amusing tho it is. you seem to be pointing a finger at ME as tho *I* was this hypothetical rape victim intent on having an abortion. lol funny tho... seeing as you allowed this conversation to bother you to the point of making it personal, you are actually a great example of what I said about emotions tending to rule people.

nevertheless....if you cant keep it from turning personal you should not be debating in a forum at all.

Calypsophia


MiStiEM00K

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:16 pm


lilraine
I'm not arguing your points. if you payed attention, you would see that. tho what you're talking about is easier said than done. if they're strong enough emotions tend to rule people, even to the point of being irrational.

and I dont appreciate this being made personal.. amusing tho it is. you seem to be pointing a finger at ME as tho *I* was this hypothetical rape victim intent on having an abortion. lol funny tho... seeing as you allowed this conversation to bother you to the point of making it personal, you are actually a great example of what I said about emotions tending to rule people.

nevertheless....if you cant keep it from turning personal you should not be debating in a forum at all.

i;m not pointing the finger at you
and by personal
i mean "personal" as in dealing with myself and the way i act
and my opinions
not necessarily
dealing with you
that should be clear
i have nothing against people who are pro-choice
i have nothing against people who get abortions
on a personal level, i believe abortion is wrong
no matter the circumstances.
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