TGSCOM wins NFA battle, full auto no longer needs permit

[Sanzoskitsune]

*confused* where did Lin make any comment about disarming you? He actually stated he had no opinion on gun control for one thing. And as for physically disarming, I don't think he made any mention of that...  

[lazycommie]

Sanzoskitsune

*confused* where did Lin make any comment about disarming you? He actually stated he had no opinion on gun control for one thing. And as for physically disarming, I don't think he made any mention of that...

I was addressing gun control in general in that last paragraph. Basically, I don't support forcing people to be armed(as that would be pointless and a waste of money), but I also don't support disarmament(and would resist with force).  

[Sanzoskitsune]

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

*confused* where did Lin make any comment about disarming you? He actually stated he had no opinion on gun control for one thing. And as for physically disarming, I don't think he made any mention of that...

I was addressing gun control in general in that last paragraph. Basically, I don't support forcing people to be armed(as that would be pointless and a waste of money), but I also don't support disarmament(and would resist with force).

Well considering that the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms their never going to take your gun away from you since well.. that would be unconstitutional and I'll be damned before I let anyone change the Bill of Rights. Once you have your gun no one has the right to take it from you.

And I just wanted that cleared up because it sounded like you were directing it particularly at Lin when he said nothing of the sort.  

[lazycommie]

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

*confused* where did Lin make any comment about disarming you? He actually stated he had no opinion on gun control for one thing. And as for physically disarming, I don't think he made any mention of that...

I was addressing gun control in general in that last paragraph. Basically, I don't support forcing people to be armed(as that would be pointless and a waste of money), but I also don't support disarmament(and would resist with force).

Well considering that the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms their never going to take your gun away from you since well.. that would be unconstitutional and I'll be damned before I let anyone change the Bill of Rights. Once you have your gun no one has the right to take it from you.

And I just wanted that cleared up because it sounded like you were directing it particularly at Lin when he said nothing of the sort.

I've never been good with words.

They have tried to and will continue to try to. It's the nature of government(any government) to always try to disarm the populace, effectively turning them from citizens to subjects.  

[Sanzoskitsune]

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Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

*confused* where did Lin make any comment about disarming you? He actually stated he had no opinion on gun control for one thing. And as for physically disarming, I don't think he made any mention of that...

I was addressing gun control in general in that last paragraph. Basically, I don't support forcing people to be armed(as that would be pointless and a waste of money), but I also don't support disarmament(and would resist with force).

Well considering that the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms their never going to take your gun away from you since well.. that would be unconstitutional and I'll be damned before I let anyone change the Bill of Rights. Once you have your gun no one has the right to take it from you.

And I just wanted that cleared up because it sounded like you were directing it particularly at Lin when he said nothing of the sort.

I've never been good with words.

They have tried to and will continue to try to. It's the nature of government(any government) to always try to disarm the populace, effectively turning them from citizens to subjects.

Hence why it was put into the constitution that they can't take your gun away and if they do you can fight it. As I stated, once you HAVE your gun they can't take it away, unless I think you commit a crime with it. Gun control has never been about keeping guns out of the hands of responsible individuals, but keeping it out of the hands of the people I'm used to having guns. Those who only want one to be able to shoot someone and commit crime. I'm not saying it works, I'm saying that's what its about.  

[lazycommie]

Sanzoskitsune

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Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

*confused* where did Lin make any comment about disarming you? He actually stated he had no opinion on gun control for one thing. And as for physically disarming, I don't think he made any mention of that...

I was addressing gun control in general in that last paragraph. Basically, I don't support forcing people to be armed(as that would be pointless and a waste of money), but I also don't support disarmament(and would resist with force).

Well considering that the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms their never going to take your gun away from you since well.. that would be unconstitutional and I'll be damned before I let anyone change the Bill of Rights. Once you have your gun no one has the right to take it from you.

And I just wanted that cleared up because it sounded like you were directing it particularly at Lin when he said nothing of the sort.

I've never been good with words.

They have tried to and will continue to try to. It's the nature of government(any government) to always try to disarm the populace, effectively turning them from citizens to subjects.

Hence why it was put into the constitution that they can't take your gun away and if they do you can fight it. As I stated, once you HAVE your gun they can't take it away, unless I think you commit a crime with it. Gun control has never been about keeping guns out of the hands of responsible individuals, but keeping it out of the hands of the people I'm used to having guns. Those who only want one to be able to shoot someone and commit crime. I'm not saying it works, I'm saying that's what its about.

Gun control is NOT about crime. Gun control is about population control and power. Crime is used as an excuse to enact such laws, but don't believe for a second it's about crime. The only way a government can get away with whatever they want is if they disarm the populace first. Against an armed population, a tyrant cannot stand.

If they manage to disarm the public at large(i.e. if they passed something like HR 45, which would have made every gun owner in the US a felon overnight, and it got dangerously close to passing and would have passed if put forth now), there will be no fighting it in courts, because it would come as an XO or something foisted by the BATF.  

[Sanzoskitsune]

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Sanzoskitsune

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Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

*confused* where did Lin make any comment about disarming you? He actually stated he had no opinion on gun control for one thing. And as for physically disarming, I don't think he made any mention of that...

I was addressing gun control in general in that last paragraph. Basically, I don't support forcing people to be armed(as that would be pointless and a waste of money), but I also don't support disarmament(and would resist with force).

Well considering that the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms their never going to take your gun away from you since well.. that would be unconstitutional and I'll be damned before I let anyone change the Bill of Rights. Once you have your gun no one has the right to take it from you.

And I just wanted that cleared up because it sounded like you were directing it particularly at Lin when he said nothing of the sort.

I've never been good with words.

They have tried to and will continue to try to. It's the nature of government(any government) to always try to disarm the populace, effectively turning them from citizens to subjects.

Hence why it was put into the constitution that they can't take your gun away and if they do you can fight it. As I stated, once you HAVE your gun they can't take it away, unless I think you commit a crime with it. Gun control has never been about keeping guns out of the hands of responsible individuals, but keeping it out of the hands of the people I'm used to having guns. Those who only want one to be able to shoot someone and commit crime. I'm not saying it works, I'm saying that's what its about.

Gun control is NOT about crime. Gun control is about population control and power. Crime is used as an excuse to enact such laws, but don't believe for a second it's about crime. The only way a government can get away with whatever they want is if they disarm the populace first. Against an armed population, a tyrant cannot stand.

If they manage to disarm the public at large(i.e. if they passed something like HR 45, which would have made every gun owner in the US a felon overnight, and it got dangerously close to passing and would have passed if put forth now), there will be no fighting it in courts, because it would come as an XO or something foisted by the BATF.

Since I refuse to get into another argument with you on political things since you don't respect my point of view anyway. I've just gotta point out that you really hate the government and leave it at that.  

[lazycommie]

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

Well considering that the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms their never going to take your gun away from you since well.. that would be unconstitutional and I'll be damned before I let anyone change the Bill of Rights. Once you have your gun no one has the right to take it from you.

And I just wanted that cleared up because it sounded like you were directing it particularly at Lin when he said nothing of the sort.

I've never been good with words.

They have tried to and will continue to try to. It's the nature of government(any government) to always try to disarm the populace, effectively turning them from citizens to subjects.

Hence why it was put into the constitution that they can't take your gun away and if they do you can fight it. As I stated, once you HAVE your gun they can't take it away, unless I think you commit a crime with it. Gun control has never been about keeping guns out of the hands of responsible individuals, but keeping it out of the hands of the people I'm used to having guns. Those who only want one to be able to shoot someone and commit crime. I'm not saying it works, I'm saying that's what its about.

Gun control is NOT about crime. Gun control is about population control and power. Crime is used as an excuse to enact such laws, but don't believe for a second it's about crime. The only way a government can get away with whatever they want is if they disarm the populace first. Against an armed population, a tyrant cannot stand.

If they manage to disarm the public at large(i.e. if they passed something like HR 45, which would have made every gun owner in the US a felon overnight, and it got dangerously close to passing and would have passed if put forth now), there will be no fighting it in courts, because it would come as an XO or something foisted by the BATF.

Since I refuse to get into another argument with you on political things since you don't respect my point of view anyway. I've just gotta point out that you really hate the government and leave it at that.

I don't respect your views, no. I respect you, but that doesn't carry to things you believe. I don't expect you to respect mine, either.

I do not "hate" the government, but I do distrust government in general. Just as I would distrust any body of people that gets away with murder, theft, etc. on a regular basis.  

[Sanzoskitsune]

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

Well considering that the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms their never going to take your gun away from you since well.. that would be unconstitutional and I'll be damned before I let anyone change the Bill of Rights. Once you have your gun no one has the right to take it from you.

And I just wanted that cleared up because it sounded like you were directing it particularly at Lin when he said nothing of the sort.

I've never been good with words.

They have tried to and will continue to try to. It's the nature of government(any government) to always try to disarm the populace, effectively turning them from citizens to subjects.

Hence why it was put into the constitution that they can't take your gun away and if they do you can fight it. As I stated, once you HAVE your gun they can't take it away, unless I think you commit a crime with it. Gun control has never been about keeping guns out of the hands of responsible individuals, but keeping it out of the hands of the people I'm used to having guns. Those who only want one to be able to shoot someone and commit crime. I'm not saying it works, I'm saying that's what its about.

Gun control is NOT about crime. Gun control is about population control and power. Crime is used as an excuse to enact such laws, but don't believe for a second it's about crime. The only way a government can get away with whatever they want is if they disarm the populace first. Against an armed population, a tyrant cannot stand.

If they manage to disarm the public at large(i.e. if they passed something like HR 45, which would have made every gun owner in the US a felon overnight, and it got dangerously close to passing and would have passed if put forth now), there will be no fighting it in courts, because it would come as an XO or something foisted by the BATF.

Since I refuse to get into another argument with you on political things since you don't respect my point of view anyway. I've just gotta point out that you really hate the government and leave it at that.

I don't respect your views, no. I respect you, but that doesn't carry to things you believe. I don't expect you to respect mine, either.

I do not "hate" the government, but I do distrust government in general. Just as I would distrust any body of people that gets away with murder, theft, etc. on a regular basis.

Actually I do respect your views, I may not agree with them but I respect them. I respect that you have your reasons for having them and got there from whatever life you lead. That is the difference between me and you, I can disagree with a point of view yet still respect it, you can't and that shows a certain level of disrespect for the person to me.  

[lazycommie]

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

Hence why it was put into the constitution that they can't take your gun away and if they do you can fight it. As I stated, once you HAVE your gun they can't take it away, unless I think you commit a crime with it. Gun control has never been about keeping guns out of the hands of responsible individuals, but keeping it out of the hands of the people I'm used to having guns. Those who only want one to be able to shoot someone and commit crime. I'm not saying it works, I'm saying that's what its about.

Gun control is NOT about crime. Gun control is about population control and power. Crime is used as an excuse to enact such laws, but don't believe for a second it's about crime. The only way a government can get away with whatever they want is if they disarm the populace first. Against an armed population, a tyrant cannot stand.

If they manage to disarm the public at large(i.e. if they passed something like HR 45, which would have made every gun owner in the US a felon overnight, and it got dangerously close to passing and would have passed if put forth now), there will be no fighting it in courts, because it would come as an XO or something foisted by the BATF.

Since I refuse to get into another argument with you on political things since you don't respect my point of view anyway. I've just gotta point out that you really hate the government and leave it at that.

I don't respect your views, no. I respect you, but that doesn't carry to things you believe. I don't expect you to respect mine, either.

I do not "hate" the government, but I do distrust government in general. Just as I would distrust any body of people that gets away with murder, theft, etc. on a regular basis.

Actually I do respect your views, I may not agree with them but I respect them. I respect that you have your reasons for having them and got there from whatever life you lead. That is the difference between me and you, I can disagree with a point of view yet still respect it, you can't and that shows a certain level of disrespect for the person to me.

I differentiate between the person and the beliefs of the person. A person, to me, is to be respected until proven otherwise. A person's beliefs, however, are fair game. That reciprocates. I don't expect anyone to respect my beliefs or ideals, and so I don't mind if someone doesn't. If someone does, well, it's a welcome thing. Not required, though.  

[Sanzoskitsune]

lazycommie

I differentiate between the person and the beliefs of the person. A person, to me, is to be respected until proven otherwise. A person's beliefs, however, are fair game. That reciprocates. I don't expect anyone to respect my beliefs or ideals, and so I don't mind if someone doesn't. If someone does, well, it's a welcome thing. Not required, though.

See that's another difference. My beliefs are important to to me and are an integral part of who I am. To disrespect my beliefs is to disrespect me. That's why I don't disrespect others beliefs because those beliefs shaped that person into who they are. Their beliefs can tell you a lot about the person, at least that's what I've noticed.  

[lazycommie]

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

I differentiate between the person and the beliefs of the person. A person, to me, is to be respected until proven otherwise. A person's beliefs, however, are fair game. That reciprocates. I don't expect anyone to respect my beliefs or ideals, and so I don't mind if someone doesn't. If someone does, well, it's a welcome thing. Not required, though.

See that's another difference. My beliefs are important to to me and are an integral part of who I am. To disrespect my beliefs is to disrespect me. That's why I don't disrespect others beliefs because those beliefs shaped that person into who they are. Their beliefs can tell you a lot about the person, at least that's what I've noticed.

Don't take my disrespect of your beliefs as pointed at you. If it helps, think of me targeting the words.  

[Sanzoskitsune]

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

I differentiate between the person and the beliefs of the person. A person, to me, is to be respected until proven otherwise. A person's beliefs, however, are fair game. That reciprocates. I don't expect anyone to respect my beliefs or ideals, and so I don't mind if someone doesn't. If someone does, well, it's a welcome thing. Not required, though.

See that's another difference. My beliefs are important to to me and are an integral part of who I am. To disrespect my beliefs is to disrespect me. That's why I don't disrespect others beliefs because those beliefs shaped that person into who they are. Their beliefs can tell you a lot about the person, at least that's what I've noticed.

Don't take my disrespect of your beliefs as pointed at you. If it helps, think of me targeting the words.

Doesn't matter what you intend, its what I gather from your comments. If I see your comments as insults because they're insulting to me then they're insults. Simple as that.  

[lazycommie]

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

I differentiate between the person and the beliefs of the person. A person, to me, is to be respected until proven otherwise. A person's beliefs, however, are fair game. That reciprocates. I don't expect anyone to respect my beliefs or ideals, and so I don't mind if someone doesn't. If someone does, well, it's a welcome thing. Not required, though.

See that's another difference. My beliefs are important to to me and are an integral part of who I am. To disrespect my beliefs is to disrespect me. That's why I don't disrespect others beliefs because those beliefs shaped that person into who they are. Their beliefs can tell you a lot about the person, at least that's what I've noticed.

Don't take my disrespect of your beliefs as pointed at you. If it helps, think of me targeting the words.

Doesn't matter what you intend, its what I gather from your comments. If I see your comments as insults because they're insulting to me then they're insults. Simple as that.

And that's entirely on you.  

[Sanzoskitsune]

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

Sanzoskitsune

lazycommie

I differentiate between the person and the beliefs of the person. A person, to me, is to be respected until proven otherwise. A person's beliefs, however, are fair game. That reciprocates. I don't expect anyone to respect my beliefs or ideals, and so I don't mind if someone doesn't. If someone does, well, it's a welcome thing. Not required, though.

See that's another difference. My beliefs are important to to me and are an integral part of who I am. To disrespect my beliefs is to disrespect me. That's why I don't disrespect others beliefs because those beliefs shaped that person into who they are. Their beliefs can tell you a lot about the person, at least that's what I've noticed.

Don't take my disrespect of your beliefs as pointed at you. If it helps, think of me targeting the words.

Doesn't matter what you intend, its what I gather from your comments. If I see your comments as insults because they're insulting to me then they're insults. Simple as that.

And that's entirely on you.

....you don't care that you insult people do you? Geez this is why I get so upset talking to you.