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 Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:21 am
Haseo-The_Terror_Of_Death I don't think home schooling or single sex education is good at all. You need to learn how to interact with other people all the time, otherwise, when you go out into the Job world, you'll have no idea how to react to certain things. yep, I agree with you. I don't agree with home schooling either...because the parent might teach their child what they want it to know, but that doesn't mean it will pass it's exams..the teachers teahc you how to pass the exams...if you want to teach your child other things, like religion or history etc, then feel free to teach them that too, but don't deprive them of a certified graduation or interaction with others.
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:56 pm
I don't know if you missed my post or didn't read it but that's an incredibly narrow and almost wrong view of what homeschooling is. It even sounds like it was taken straight from Waterboy. (Hint: she wasn't fundamentally a bad teacher, she was simply a bad mom driven by selfish ambitions and she did everything in her power to stifle his development.) Again, home schooling doesn't mean you sit at home for 8 hours with a parent or tutor droning on and on, it means that you learn away from public school. For some this could simply be groups of other home schoolers, time on the internet looking up stuff on Wikipedia, and more. A bad parent would keep a kid locked up; a good one will bring a kid INTO THE REAL WORLD and let them see and learn how to interact in the REAL WORLD.
Going through the education system to learn how to take exams is almost circular reasoning since education system is almost the only place you find written exams in the first place! Plus, taking exams doesn't seem to be something people learn how to do in public schools, although that was my personal experience from college.
And if we're going to talk about misinformation then why don't we talk about political bogging down of the education system in an attempt to perpetuate a nation-wide ignorance? Evolution... what if a school is too afraid of lawsuits from creationist parents and has its science teachers not mention evolution at all? Shouldn't we be scared that a school board actually implemented anti-science pro-religion policies in Kansas (even though it was sucessfully struck down in court)? My point is that misinformation is certainly being attempted in public schools... no need to lay the blame solely on the shoulders of bad parents (who are still able to force their dogma onto their children even with those kids going to school.)
Of course, aren't single-sex schools private institutions and thus not really required to conform to government limitations, meaning what they teach can be at the religious whims of their school board? That would be another "potential" point off, but granted this is not a feature of all private schools so I wouldn't take any real points off...
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:31 am
Nadian I don't know if you missed my post or didn't read it but that's an incredibly narrow and almost wrong view of what homeschooling is. It even sounds like it was taken straight from Waterboy. (Hint: she wasn't fundamentally a bad teacher, she was simply a bad mom driven by selfish ambitions and she did everything in her power to stifle his development.) Again, home schooling doesn't mean you sit at home for 8 hours with a parent or tutor droning on and on, it means that you learn away from public school. For some this could simply be groups of other home schoolers, time on the internet looking up stuff on Wikipedia, and more. A bad parent would keep a kid locked up; a good one will bring a kid INTO THE REAL WORLD and let them see and learn how to interact in the REAL WORLD. Going through the education system to learn how to take exams is almost circular reasoning since education system is almost the only place you find written exams in the first place! Plus, taking exams doesn't seem to be something people learn how to do in public schools, although that was my personal experience from college. And if we're going to talk about misinformation then why don't we talk about political bogging down of the education system in an attempt to perpetuate a nation-wide ignorance? Evolution... what if a school is too afraid of lawsuits from creationist parents and has its science teachers not mention evolution at all? Shouldn't we be scared that a school board actually implemented anti-science pro-religion policies in Kansas (even though it was sucessfully struck down in court)? My point is that misinformation is certainly being attempted in public schools... no need to lay the blame solely on the shoulders of bad parents (who are still able to force their dogma onto their children even with those kids going to school.) Of course, aren't single-sex schools private institutions and thus not really required to conform to government limitations, meaning what they teach can be at the religious whims of their school board? That would be another "potential" point off, but granted this is not a feature of all private schools so I wouldn't take any real points off... here in england we don't teach creationism and there is no thread of parents who believe in it cause, well it is a very rare minority of people who believe in that, it's not like the States.
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:54 am
With single-sex schools, you get a more streamlined and spedific education, but I think kids should be able to learn along with kids of the opposite gender. You may not learn as much from your classes, but you'll get much more developed social skills and learn more about social interactions and such.
Plus, school would be boring without all my crazy guy friends to hang out with. mrgreen
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:34 am
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:21 pm
Single sex education is great education, but there is more than life to learning 2+2.
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:06 am
oh right sorry, it's just that it seems to be big news in the states and it's never mentioned here
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:11 pm
Okay, enough about the general education system and what's better or worse than what. Someone please start another thread if you wish to continue the discussion. This thread is about single-sex schools, let's keep it that way.
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:29 am
There are many upsides to single-sex education, but also many downsides.
I wouldn't like to be placed in single-sex education becuase, with the exception of my close friends who I've known since I was about 6 years old, I get on better with boys. Generaly I find it awkward talking to girls of my own age.
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:45 pm
Not all guys are evil. Infact, most of them aren't. Your school is horrible and should be ashamed. Not you, just the administrators. If those are the morals they teach, it sticks with them for life. I went to a private school for a long time, but it destroye the morals and values that the childrens parents were teaching them. Public schools might have a bad reputation, but the education is fair and social interaction is abundant. femanism is so out of hand in todays society. In the thirties, it was a noble cause. now the essence of what all those women were striving for is lost forever.
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:27 pm
Personally, in my teenage years I went to both an all girls school, age 11-14, and a mixed school after that. I found that I enjoyed going to a co-ed school than an all girls. This was for the simple reason that it felt much more relaxed; there was far less of a stigma around who you talked to and the girls were, frankly, a lot nicer. I found that in an enviroment with girls alone, there seemed to be a lot more seperation between the social cliches. And in a co-ed environment, men were far less threatening as a whole.
However, I also found that it was slightly harder to learn in a co-ed school. Stereotypical as it sounds, the guys were more inclined to distrupt the class and so less actual learning took place in the lessons.
Oh, and something that has always irritated me greatly, in the town where I went to an all girls school, it was a grammar school. In the South of England when you are 11 you take a test called the 11+ (original, no) and those who achieve over a certain average can go to a grammar school rather than a comprehensive. However, as I said, my all girls school was a grammar school, the only girls grammar school in the area. But, there were 2 boys grammar schools, so twice as many boys could go to a grammar school as girls, despite the fact that statistically girls, on average, did better on the 11+. Not really relavent but it annoyed me....
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:51 pm
whats the problem
as long as you can keep a mentality that isnt against males ur fine
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:54 pm
I personalt never likes the idea of single sex schools. It halps not at all and subconciasly does things. In mixed schools one interacts with males and females (and whatever else in between) and it's helpful laer on. Classes like that dosen't help much, self-defence great but not so anit-guy. but i've always been against all girl or all guy schools.
-kacy
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:38 pm
dboyzero I disagree with you on the public school system, as there is plenty of interaction between students of all grade levels and ages. I don't know about yours, but all of my public schools encouraged older students to help out the younger students, even to the point of having high schoolers go down to the local elementary school to volunteer and help out. While no school can perfectly recreate the "real world" environment, public school is the closest thing you can get to short of tossing your kid on the street to fend for themselves. Single-sex schools certainly are even worse comparisons to the real world than public schools, so I see your argument there. I recently spoke to a friend of mine who went to a single-sex school, and she said the primary reason for segregation was that they were afraid of the girls being overshadowed in classes by boys, leading them to be more docile and less confident. She was very surprised to learn that in my school the girls often did much better and were more confident than the boys in class. Thoughts? planet check. which stellar system is you planet part of?
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:54 pm
Euver whats the problem as long as you can keep a mentality that isnt against males ur fine not quite. If theres a reason for hating guys its fine. What isnt fine is having people shove PROPAGANDA down the throats of those incapable of escape. this is the single biggest problem (in my opinion) of every single education/indoctrination system i have had any sort of look at. US text books are so ethnocentric that you need a sledgehammer to crack the shell of bias around the facts. most private schools use less propaganda. this example of a single sex school seems to issue more than normal. thus this example is bad. Given a quick check with a few OL friends who go to single sex schools, they on average spew more brown silk (spun BS) into the minds of their students.
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