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Cornelius loh Quatious

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:37 am


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also if you ever read the book that inspierd draula being protriad as a vampire and you belive it you are being miss gided drakula never lived in the castle to book said he did also he had never been in the region in question.
the origine of vampires stories are unknown but the did start somwere in asia.


And you know this how? The book "Dracula" by Bram Stoker was fictional, and was hardly based on the life of Vladimir Draculea.

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i know people who beleive themselves to be vampires, and they are totally kind to the people they care about... anyone else had better watch out, i dont know if the bloodlust is real and yes vampires are violent creatures but they are not heartless demons that claim your souls.


Now, do you believe these people are real vampires? In the supernatural sense, not just people who have one of the aforementioned physical conditions. Also, most vampiric lore claims that vampires are soulless creatures (being raised from the dead). Does this qualify them as beings that would harm those close to them?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:05 am


i read acople books and watched some movies on vlad in the school i went to.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:00 pm


no they do not harm the people they care about, they in fact protect them with a feirceness, and i do believe in the possibility of vampires otherwise how would the story start, and the dracula story is a bunch of crap, they do not abhore sunlight although it bothers them on some level and crusifixes, holy water, and other resigous relics dont work as for the garlic thier sense of smell is very strong so garlic wouldnt be to pleasing to them
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:01 pm


and the vamps i know are very much alive so no they are not raised from the dead

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Cornelius loh Quatious

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:32 pm


What you and urzza keep doing is making claims about people you know and claim to be vampires, but this doesn't do anything for those of us who don't know your friends.

If you want to convince us that vampires are real, you're going to need to bring us proof, or at least a line of reasoning that brings the non-existence of vampires into question.

What do you define as a vampire? Someone who drinks blood? If that's the case, anybody can be a vampire. If it's someone who likes to drink blood, anybody with Renfield Syndrome can be a vampire.

In order to claim that vampires exist, you must define what they are. The common definition involves being raised from the dead, but you claim that this is not true. If that's the case, how do you define vampires?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:22 pm


from what i know vampires are living soulfull creatures that struggle and sometimes give in to bloodlust, they are sensitive to sunlight but it wont kill them, they arent demons that steal your innocence and soul and they can be really caring creatures, they are somewhat violent and protect those they love with a feirceness, the full moon really hieghtens the bloodlust which is really more of a disease, they can live without it

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Cornelius loh Quatious

PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:53 pm


So what you're saying is that Vampirism is basically a disease which compels a person to drink blood, but doesn't make them any less human...

Yes, that sounds a great deal like Renfield Syndrome (at one time called Clinical Vampirism) to me.

I posted a link earlier, but here it is again: [link]

Basically, it's just an obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) which compels the person to drink blood for whatever reason. This need, however, is completely in the person's mind, and can be treated with
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several proven medications, psychotherapy and by personal awareness of the condition.


Also, it seems that this is closely related to a certain sub-culture of human society called the Vampire Lifestyle, sometimes spelled "Vampyre," so as to distinguish it from the FICTIONAL vampires that most are familiar with. [link] Nevertheless, even practioners of this lifestyle are still considered to be mentally ill and it is not something that is encouraged by contemporary medical professionals nor society as a whole.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:55 pm


yes exactly, they have heightened scences and the bloodlust is a disease in the blood itself, some can control it others cant

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:58 pm


very interesting link
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:46 am


So, they are, in fact, HUMAN with a disease? If this is what you're defining a vampire as, then of course it's not difficult to prove they exist. Since before Bram Stoker was even born, and probably since before Vlad the Impaler, people have had issues with blood.

This does not, in ANY way, make them truly vampiric in the sense that true vampire bats and insects are vampiric, that is, physically requiring blood for survival.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:09 am


something i forgot to mention, mine are somewhat psychic
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:28 pm


Ah, so they have heightened senses and are somewhat psychic.

What exactly do you mean by psychic? Can they read minds? Speak with the dead? Cause hallucinations? It's fairly difficult to prove psychic abilities, which is one of the reasons that it has so little credibility in modern society.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:27 pm


its hard to say, they can have premonitions, sense emotions that are buried deep, and thats all i can really explain right now
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:50 pm


So, this still doesn't make them any less human, as non-vampires have had the same phenomena, assuming that it's real and not some hoax.

What separates your vampiric friends from the vast majority of the human population, aside from the desire to drink blood? As far as I can tell, they are still physiologically, genetically, and mentally human.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:01 pm


look, im just telling you what i know, right now they wont tell me everything and i probably shouldnt be telling you all this, its just not very clear to me
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