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 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:30 pm
Slim95 Dragoon__x Slimmmmmm~
INCLUDE ME IN ONE OF YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOODLESSSS~
(Because I'm totally back now.) Dragoon! Long time no see! I did your old comic request (with Isel and Komo), but I thought you'd left, so I didn't include you. ;_; I'm not taking comic requests at the moment, though. I have to complete my current list by the end of the month. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak.
Oh, and I did leave. For a while, anyways.
But still, it's nice that you included Issy. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:48 pm
Shram sorry omni but after a while communism was in fact for the benefit of the leaders way before stalin came to rule Im pretty sure stalin knew what he was doing in the sense he wanted more power He already had power by the time he was pursing the kulaks. Early on in his dictatorship he already has supreme control so why did he engineer famines? Why did he persecute jews? Why did he do most of the things he did? Once you already have absolute power than you can do what you want and you can't gather more power once you're supreme ruler who no one dares to question.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:04 pm
Omnileech Undakai Omnileech Then you're not much of a capitalist then if you're going to be much like Stalin. I'm not saying he wasn't much of a communist...but he really wasn't much of a communist. He put himself over the people he was leading, and was ruthless about it. Obviously, his biggest flaw was that he wasn't a capitalist, but much like the best capitalists, he stepped on those under him for his own greater good. Capitalists do it with money, he did it with power, and I do it with both. I don't want to hear the bull that "he did it for his people". No, if your doing something for your people, then your not going to be afraid of the people. He was in it for himself and communism was just a guise to get him what he wanted. Like Hitler, he thought he was doing good or else he wouldn't have been doing it. Seriously, how many world leaders do you know are going to say "I'm going to trash my own country and make it worse because I can and I know it's going to fail but I don't care." No, everything he did was for what he thought wad for the best for his country. The hard labor, the eliminating people he thought would be threats to how he wanted the country to be, the seizure of property for collective farming. All those things he did were things he thought would benefit Russia. It's absurd but that's what he thought. Your giving two mindsets and leaving another out. You don't have to be out to screw or better your country if your in it for yourself. If the betterment of your country means the betterment of yourself, then your probably not going to screw it unless it's screwing with you...not that, you know, ******** with his country was unheard of...that Stalin guy.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:12 pm
You still have have a reason for doing what you do. Being out for yourself doesn't fly when you are as powerful as you're ever going to be and it doesn't explain a lot of Stalin's words and actions.
Anyways, what state are you stationed in Undakai? Where are you training at? Who's your commanding officer? What type of cookies do you like and where can I mail them? I'm on a baking kick and am thinking about mailing people cookies.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:16 pm
Omnileech Shram sorry omni but after a while communism was in fact for the benefit of the leaders way before stalin came to rule Im pretty sure stalin knew what he was doing in the sense he wanted more power He already had power by the time he was pursing the kulaks. Early on in his dictatorship he already has supreme control so why did he engineer famines? Why did he persecute jews? Why did he do most of the things he did? Once you already have absolute power than you can do what you want and you can't gather more power once you're supreme ruler who no one dares to question. Your do not have absolute power unless you control the world, because your not supreme ruler untill the fear of the countries surrounding you (or, in modern days, the country that has the power to get to you) are no longer there. Stalin was not "supreme ruler". He was a ruler who lived in fear of the people he controlled and the people of the contries he did not.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:20 pm
Omnileech You still have have a reason for doing what you do. Being out for yourself doesn't fly when you are as powerful as you're ever going to be and it doesn't explain a lot of Stalin's words and actions. The motivation doesn't necessarily dictate the actions in clear relationship. My one standing goal is to be in a better place tomorrow than I am today. Much of that having to do with making life as simple and easy as possible. That doesn't mean that I'm making life as simple and easy as possible now. In fact, I'm busting my a** right now because I know that eventually it will pay out. That said, if you're in it for the sake of your own power and greed, what better way to achieve it than to disguise it as the betterment of your people? In the case of war who was the first one in the bunker? The human mind is a truly twisted piece of work. -Tsuji
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:55 am
Tsujigiri-san Omnileech You still have have a reason for doing what you do. Being out for yourself doesn't fly when you are as powerful as you're ever going to be and it doesn't explain a lot of Stalin's words and actions. The motivation doesn't necessarily dictate the actions in clear relationship. My one standing goal is to be in a better place tomorrow than I am today. Much of that having to do with making life as simple and easy as possible. That doesn't mean that I'm making life as simple and easy as possible now. In fact, I'm busting my a** right now because I know that eventually it will pay out. That said, if you're in it for the sake of your own power and greed, what better way to achieve it than to disguise it as the betterment of your people? In the case of war who was the first one in the bunker? The human mind is a truly twisted piece of work. -Tsuji But he already had absolute power in Russia, eastern Europe and wasn't interested in conquering the world. He had already accomplished things he already wanted to accomplish and a lot of things he did didn't give him more power at all. Read up on him, he was twisted, paranoid, and thought he was helping out Russia by reducing unemployment, making russia a new and powerful country rapidly industrializing the country. He thought he was doing good for the country and by doing that he thought he was helping the people of russia no matter what the human cost was.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:05 pm
Stalin ble generalsekretær for det sovjetiske kommunistparti i 1922, og bygde opp sin innflytelse med dette som grunnlag. Under maktkampen etter Vladimir Lenins død klarte Stalin å tilsidesette sin rival Leon Trotskij. I 1930-årene iverksatte han omfattende utrenskninger, som toppet seg i 1937. Ettersom mange bønder motsatte seg tvangskollektiviseringen av landsbruket, satte Stalins regime inn brutale maktmidler mot «kulakkene», og sultet millioner til døde. Hans folkemord på ukrainerne kostet ti millioner mennesket livet. or in english Stalin became generalsecratary for the soviet communist party in 1922, and built his influence with this as his main basis. under the powerfight after vladimir Lenins death stalin managed to set aside his rival leon trotskij. In the 1930's he started "Cleaning out" russia which went on till 1937. Since alot of farmers stood against giving up their Land, Stalins regime set up brutal powermethods of getting rid of these kulak's(sp?) and starved millions of people to dead. In total 10 million people died in the ukraine. ( from http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Stalin ) From that I can't find it possible he wasnt aware that he wasnt exactly doing things... communistical.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:14 pm
One last post before my meal (forgive me, Slim)  -Tsuji
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:19 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:48 pm
I do what I can, Shram...
Actually, the sad part of this is that I know communism to be a better system but am too cynical to be blind of its impracticality. You see, communism (democratic-socialism) is a perfect form of governance, but requires people to be perfect. Since people will never be perfect, it can never work...
-Tsuji
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:16 pm
........... I want to be helpful this time around if we have sides... I should be on the side of 'good' 'cause Aretoo has a cute fluffy tail >.<
*skips away in search of food and a new pencil sharpener*
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:09 pm
Tsujigiri-san I do what I can, Shram... Actually, the sad part of this is that I know communism to be a better system but am too cynical to be blind of its impracticality. You see, communism (democratic-socialism) is a perfect form of governance, but requires people to be perfect. Since people will never be perfect, it can never work... -Tsuji I know, its so sad
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:12 pm
Lobo-chan ........... I want to be helpful this time around if we have sides... I should be on the side of 'good' 'cause Aretoo has a cute fluffy tail >.< *skips away in search of food and a new pencil sharpener*
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