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 Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:55 pm
V For V There they are. The vegetarians. Look at them pass by knowing that they haven't eaten a dead animal today. How thoughtful of those righteous and good-willed vegetarians. talk2hand Gather round, boys and girls. I'm going to tell you why it doesn't matter whether you eat meat or plants and I'm going to tell you why the vegetarian myth of animal rights is completely warped. The most common vegetarian arguement is that it's good for the animals and we don't have to kill to eat plants. I'm glad to break it to you, plants are alive. "Oh but plants are just plants. They don't walk around or bark or anything so it's ok for us to kill them." It's still killing (or murder as some vegetarians describe meat eating). According to you, the level of sentience for animals matters! Sentience is self-awareness or knowledge of existing. Dogs, cats, cows, and other animals are alive and so according to vegetarians should be allowed to go on living. What about plants? Do you think that just because a plant can't fight back when you rip it out of the ground that you are superior and thus able to eat it conscience-free? A calf can't fight back when it's put through the slaughter machines so why isn't that ok? Is it because the calf can scream but a plant can't? Is it because plants don't bleed? Is it because you don't have any as pets? Is it because people don't make coats out of plants? You might as well let yourself starve to death if you really want to save the environment and give livings things their right to life. Just go on and sacrifice your right to live in the process. You might as well support abortion too just to keep down the number of potential meat eaters. My oh my, how dare you eat a salad.. I hope you understand that vegetarians are no better than meat eaters. A lot of carnivores (or omnivores like most humans) don't try to get you to eat meat because these people understand the neccessity of eating what they do. Diet is like religion. It's personal; don't try and force yours on someone else. I'm not forcing mine on anyone, I'm just saying how I'm a vegetarian, and I think animal abuse it cruel. I know that I'm not exactly saving the animals, but when I think about eating meat now, it just doesn't seem right anyway.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:23 pm
I love when people say i need to loose weight....I just yell out BE VEGETARIAN....because i lost 25 pounds alreday for just cutting back on soda and stopped eating meat
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:16 am
I make a point only to eat meat and only be a customer to companies that DONT treat their animals like that cry it is indeed very sad how they keep them. i dont eat as much pork as i do beef, and cows are often treated better, raised in a pasture instead of a dirty pen. i try and make sure that the companies i buy from dont abuse their animals like that 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:04 pm
ooh meat .. mhm good but not caring.. eating living animals. crying
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:44 pm
I only eat chicken, not really a big fan of other foods, Im pretty picky either way.
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:32 pm
I'm not going to check the website...I've seen enough gruesome PETA protests/posters downtown to traumatize me for life.
I've been somewhat vegetarian for several years (just noticed that). The only living creature I eat is fish (I live in a fish-loving household), but that only happens on rare occasions.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:29 pm
I love meat.
But I can understand why people are vegitarians.
And I totally support it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:58 am
whats the differance from eating animals to people? you could just give them all hufu. it is filled with nutrients that ven cannables can enjoy!
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:10 am
I like cow too much to stop eating it . . . and bacon too. I refuse to let the bacon be free and roaming!! It needs to be in my stomach! Just don't do anything with P.E.T.A. because they're complete anarchists . . .
EDIT
I wasn't born at the top of the food chain to become a vegetarian! LoL I heart that quote.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:28 pm
goddess_elppy I like cow too much to stop eating it . . . and bacon too. I refuse to let the bacon be free and roaming!! It needs to be in my stomach! Just don't do anything with P.E.T.A. because they're complete anarchists . . . EDIT I wasn't born at the top of the food chain to become a vegetarian! LoL I heart that quote. So you're saying that you don't want to stop eating meat because you're weak-minded? And you're fine with that? Also, while I don't agree 100% with PETA, calling them complete anarchists is both a) inaccurate, and b) uncalled for. Also, we're not the top of the food chain, since the food chain is really more like a food web. Millions of microorganisms feed off of you everyday, and when you die there will be millions more.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:15 pm
I wouldn't be able to become a vegetarian because I LOVE the taste of meat, specifically beef. Yeah vegetables are delicious too, but meat is better. Look at it this way, atleast they kill the animals before they process them.
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:16 am
wolf_spirit16 Humans are omnivorious...have you ever noticed you havent seen a 70 yr old strict vegetarian? We were ment to eat meat AND veggy's. Stopping eating animals will only make there meat rot and there death a waste. hey are raised to be eaten, and USALLY raised decently. I love animals and wanna join PETA but going vegtarian won't help. Only if a super unrealistic amount of people go vegerarian. Besides, animals suffer just as much when other animals pray on them (actually...humans are tehcnically animals...) So if you think humans going to only eating veggys/fruit'll help, then you gotta change regualer animals to that to....won't work. Going veggitarian only makes the animals lives wasted.Be lucky you have the meat to eat here. There are places the would kill to eat it. (Note...world hunger) And be glad a lot of places in America kill and raise animals decently, (usally) other countrys raise and kill in less "nice" ways. I'm proud to be a meat AND veggy eater like God made me to be. -Kacy You say an animal's death would be a waste, as if they were objects. They also breath and feel like us, and if you're saying it because of world hunger, think about the tons of grain and cereal given to cows just so they end up in your stomach. Now, that is a waste. All that grain could be given to the countries that need it the most and there would be no starving people and children anymore. http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=chew_on_thischeck that out and tell me your opinion later. (it's not like I'm trying to change it or anything, just tell me what you thought of the video)
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:23 pm
I;m thinking about not eating meat, since if you have too much of it, can cause cancers like Colon Cancer, Damn You Red Meat! But its just really hard to just suddenly stop eating it. Maybe a sloooow procedure.
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:10 pm
Well, cass769, you asked for my opinion. Very well. It's inaccurate, putting forth sensational data, not to inform, but to shock. Rather than show you both sides impartially, it show's only worst-case scenarios, cases of abuse that are 1/10,000 at the most. The majority of said cases aren't even in the United States but rather third world countries. And frankly, their statistics are flat wrong. "poop in every bag of chicken"? Give me a break!
Yeah, I have pretty noisy opinions on this topic. I live in Alaska, and the majority of meat in my diet I know the origin of to the house. The caribou in my freezer came from the one my brother shot in September, the fish is coming in constantly, the cows are raised by my cousins, and the chickens are mine. I know a lot more about this then you do, first hand.
Those pictures of pigs in pens? That's what they like! Left to their own devices, they choose a muddy area with wet food. It might look disgustingly to us, but it's actually what they like.
Soy bean allergies are the fastest growing in the United States. I myself have one. Many a person couldn't go "veggie" if they wanted to.
Becoming a vegitarian is not the same as supporting movements for more reasonable treatment of harvest animals. I support one. The other shows a lack of common sense, but to each their own.
A note: I must have read through about half this before I figured out the "PETA" you were referring to was a animal right organization. Up here, PETA stands for the opposite: "People for the Eating of Tasty Animals". I looked up yours on the internet and realised there was a difference.
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:01 pm
Yes, the PETA you're familiar with is a parody of the infamous animal rights organization, Protection and Equal Treatment of Animals.
It's good to know exactly where your food is coming from, which you can do because your family is te one providing it. However, the vast majority of Americans aren't afforded that luxury, since most of us just go to the grocery store and pick up what we want. We have to assume that the food we buy is coming from clean and wholesome places, but there's no way to guarantee that. We can't even guarantee that the food we eat was grown in America!
Be careful when choosing your words and your arguments, and remember that not everyone has the same situation you do.
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