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 Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:14 pm
So, in your opinion, is there anything about these people that sets them apart from other human beings on this planet, in a physiological, genetic, or otherwise scientifically-testable sense? If so, do explain; if not, then as far as "vampires" are concerned, they still are not anything more than normal humans.
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:28 pm
well basically they are strong creatures wiht enhanced sences that have a disease in the blood that makes them crave blood, that has a violent nature and violent tendencies and psychik abilities. the rest is to hard to explain
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~ murderd in cold blood ~
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:56 pm
Yes, you've explained that already. Strength is something that can be exhibited with training and mastery over one's body. I've seen people perform amazing feats of strength, but none of them claim to be supernatural or different from other people. [link] [link]Enhanced senses, again, can be done with training, and there are also those who are naturally gifted with impressive eyesight, hearing, touch, taste, smell, and even intuition. However, these people still do not claim to be anything inhuman. [link]The bloodlust I've already covered, and it's really just a mental condition of obsessive-compulsion rather than some kind of disease. It also brings up some violent tendencies, as evidenced by possibly the most famous "vampire," Richard Trenton Chase. [link]Psychic abilities, as I've said before, are difficult to prove, but after seeing a live demonstration, I'm no longer in doubt of their existence. Still, even the Mentalist does not claim to possess any amazing powers, just a natural talent for intuition. [link]So again I ask, what separates them from every other person on the planet, aside from them claiming to be vampires? Or are you saying that they really are just humans with varying conditions?
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:04 pm
im not sure, i dont know much more than you do
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:36 pm
Esakita Um first off I agree with BlueBoo, if you wanted an intelligent conversation about Vampires, you probably should have spelled the header correctly.
Secondly, I think the whole some people being obsessed with vampires is just weak people searching for soemthing that could give them power. Most people who become obsessed with vampires have been ridiculed or have had some level of social ostracization. Therefore they feel a need to generate a super persona to give them some sembalence of control or power in their lives. Sure I love the concept of Vampires, well not love...I don't think the idea that there are beings walking among us who kill some of us and feast on our life force or blood...I think to worship or idolize something like that would just be insane! But needless to say there are those who idealize them because they see them as some kind of persona they could adopt to make them feel better. This is just stupid and these people need a therapist not Anne Rice. You know it's not just socially awkward people that are into vampires! I myself though slightly obsessed with vampires don't search to create a super persona for myself i just find them really neat. I mean come on! How cool would it be to never age??? The whole meaning has definitely changed over time. They've glamorized it. I got into vampires from watching Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Which as talented as Joss is i got to tell him : What were you thinking through some of those seasons???!!!! Great writing though, terrific......for the most part. I had a major crush on Spike. whee (James Marsters). I do know i may be slightly ridiculed for the fact that my love for vampires started with BTVS and ATS( though i only really like 5th season when Spike was in it. heart whee ) The myths and legends of vampires appeal to not only the socially awkward but to many other types of people.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:48 pm
I've never really had an obsession with vampires. Mmm...if I did, it never lasted for more than a few seconds. I borrowed my brother's copy of Dracula, but never read it. =P
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:51 pm
I had an obsession with vampires, but I suppose that I was considered somewhat of an outcast.
Not in the sense that I was openly rediculed or anything, I just usually didn't bother spending time with people who were into sports or anything or that nature, because I was finely tuning my intellect, and I do think that vampires are pretty cool.
The eternal life thing is something that anybody could aspire to, but there's really no way to prove anything on myself or anyone else, short of trying to commit suicide or murder 0.0
Drinking blood is less desireable in my opinion, but its really the concept of life-giving more than anything that attracts "vampires", or fuels the myth as it were.
Psychic abilities, in my opinion are believable, but its hard to convince others of this. I only know myself because I HAVE had premonitions, and they are inherant in my family on my mother's side. On my father's side, there are many empaths, so I have that trait as well (but my sister has neither o.o odd isn't it?). I must tell you though, neither of these are gifts. To know what is happening before it happens is devastating because usually only bas things are percieved, and to go through that twice... well it sucks. Also to feel other's feelings? Not good. You don't know what YOU'RE feeling anymore. You can't connect with your inner self when anyone is around, and you don't even know where others end and you begin. It's really devastating and depressing really.
Enhanced perception is believeable. I mean it has been proven that there ARE people out there with more than 20/20 vision, it makes sense that other senses can be amplified, though I don't know if that is as measurable.
Thinking on it again bloodlust is something... but I don't know what it is... some people lust for drugs, or coffee, or sex, and these are addictions... what makes blood any different?
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:36 pm
I am not obssessed with them, but I think they're cool, though probably in a differet way than most of the people who think they are cool.
First of all, if they should, for any reason, exist, then I doubt that they are lke in the movies.....I highly doubt it, and I think to study Vampirism is just sick....
Sorry to say this, but you really shouldn't believe in what movies tell you, at least not all of it.... Vampirism is a sacrifice, where real people sacrifice beings or whatever, maybe even humans to satan and death god, godesses, whatever. It's a sick thing to want, and anybody here who even considers joinging a clan that studies it, sorry I got no pity for ya.....
Vampirism is when humans worship death and evil, and drink blood, even if they dislike the taste, cut themselves to prove their worthyness, and do so much sick stuff, that if any of you saw it, I doubt you'd even consider liking Vampires ever again....The fictional Vampires, seen on TV are ok to like, imagine, but the real thing, trust me you want nothig to do with that.....it's disgusting, full of blood, and you never know when you will be a sacrifice, since they kill each other, thinking that when they die after studying Vampirism, they will be reborn as Vampires.....which is just the most twisted s**t I have ever heard.....
Even if they exist, I think that they don't drink blood, rather feed on energy or something like that, otherwise it would have been noticed by now....if you don't believe me, look up Vampirism on google and convince yourself that it's a species to adore....I don't, only the fictional ones, but only to a certain point.....
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:15 am
Look vampires are not real, yes people right books about them and articles in the national enquirer, but are those really credible sources, i mean common.
Yes it is cool to read about them, but that is about it. I read books about things like this all the time. Most of the time they are romances where the vampire falls in love with a human girl and she falls in love with him. They try to fight it but they know it it forbidden. Then towards the end after all the really bad stuff happens, she asks him to make him a vampire. Is it real, no, does it make a really compelling story, yes.
Now if u dont mind get an obsession with something that is real. Like gaia or reading.
Oh and the books i described above are called Twilight and New Moon and they are by Stephenie Meyer. You can probably get them at your local bookstore or library.
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:05 am
CrazyChick39 Look vampires are not real, yes people right books about them and articles in the national enquirer, but are those really credible sources, i mean common. Yes it is cool to read about them, but that is about it. I read books about things like this all the time. Most of the time they are romances where the vampire falls in love with a human girl and she falls in love with him. They try to fight it but they know it it forbidden. Then towards the end after all the really bad stuff happens, she asks him to make him a vampire. Is it real, no, does it make a really compelling story, yes. Now if u dont mind get an obsession with something that is real. Like gaia or reading. Oh and the books i described above are called Twilight and New Moon and they are by Stephenie Meyer. You can probably get them at your local bookstore or library. How do you know they're not real? Just because you've never met one, you assume you have the intellegent capacity to know for certain? As if your mind has the depth to hold all the the world is? And further more, how would you know if you met one? How do you know they're just going to look like Lestat or Armand? Because that's what you read? Right. And we all know stories portray real life. Which is ironic b/c that's what you're trying to say here. But you're contradicting your point by assuming because you don't see some pale, sallowskinned, long haired man all in black and semi-outdated clothes walking around the streets at night, then vampires don't exist. I mean if you were a creature who feeds off of other people, wouldn't you kind of try to blend in with the crowd? I would.
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:06 pm
Vampires are hot.
(Okay, not the most intelligent thing I've ever said, but whatever)
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:22 pm
rising_beauty CrazyChick39 Look vampires are not real, yes people right books about them and articles in the national enquirer, but are those really credible sources, i mean common. Yes it is cool to read about them, but that is about it. I read books about things like this all the time. Most of the time they are romances where the vampire falls in love with a human girl and she falls in love with him. They try to fight it but they know it it forbidden. Then towards the end after all the really bad stuff happens, she asks him to make him a vampire. Is it real, no, does it make a really compelling story, yes. Now if u dont mind get an obsession with something that is real. Like gaia or reading. Oh and the books i described above are called Twilight and New Moon and they are by Stephenie Meyer. You can probably get them at your local bookstore or library. How do you know they're not real? Just because you've never met one, you assume you have the intellegent capacity to know for certain? As if your mind has the depth to hold all the the world is? And further more, how would you know if you met one? How do you know they're just going to look like Lestat or Armand? Because that's what you read? Right. And we all know stories portray real life. Which is ironic b/c that's what you're trying to say here. But you're contradicting your point by assuming because you don't see some pale, sallowskinned, long haired man all in black and semi-outdated clothes walking around the streets at night, then vampires don't exist. I mean if you were a creature who feeds off of other people, wouldn't you kind of try to blend in with the crowd? I would. There is quite a bit of discussion I had a while back with someone talking about the existence of vampires. Feel free to peruse the past few pages for more specific evidence, but the essential point is that if vampires did exist (vampires being defined first is a necessity, with her it was a bit complicated, but in your case I'm going to assume that you mean vampires are nonhumans which require human blood to feed on as nourishment), we would see evidence of that existence. I'm not sure about your own personal belief system, but I highly doubt that anything that FEEDS off of people would be able to keep themselves a secret for so long. It is the mere work of fantasy and imagination that leads people to believe in vampires, and until there is proof otherwise, I don't see how their alleged existence would even affect society.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:41 pm
Actually Vampires are real to a degree. They are not immortal blood suckers, but they are real. There are what are called psychic vampires who just seem to drain the energy out of the room. There are also Haematophiliacs who are people who have a fetish for blood. I think these are the only two types, but essentially they are two parts of a whole.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:56 pm
WyldeKaard Actually Vampires are real to a degree. They are not immortal blood suckers, but they are real. There are what are called psychic vampires who just seem to drain the energy out of the room. There are also Haematophiliacs who are people who have a fetish for blood. I think these are the only two types, but essentially they are two parts of a whole. The Haematophiliacs you refer to is actually generally unassociated with the "vampyre" lifestyle or subculture, which to me is more just a propagation of Renfield syndrome. However, neither of these two can be called with much conviction a "real" vampire. If you want to believe in energy vampires, that's your choice to do so, but I doubt others will be convinced unless you have some sort of tangible evidence to bring to the table.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:29 pm
my opininon is simple....... vampires are hot (guy or girl for some reason) but still......... you leaches should get raided back to the underworld from hence you came!!
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