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Red Glacier

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:15 am


LadiSilverfox
Viral C
LadiSilverfox
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
@Ladi Exactly! 3nodding thank you

@Viral When did I quote the police? You mean my own movie quote way back BEFORE we were even discussing this? I didn't try to bring that into the discussion I just said I liked the quote.
no cause the police always say nobody has the right to kill. except them apparently rolleyes


color=red]Everyone has the right to kill in self defense. [It's just a matter that police are constantly putting themselves in dangerous situations so they have to defend themselves more often. Even than they attempt to use non-lethal forms to take the criminal down first (unless the bad guy already killed a cop, than they will kill in cold blood for revenge sake).
thats not the story here. if you defend yourself then you can be sued by your attacker and most oftenly they win the case. actual fact, sadly


Depends on the state you live in and what you do before...Here in MA, they as that people take themselves and a family and move them to a room with a phone as far away from the attacker as possible. If the attacker enters the room and makes the first move on you or your family you than have the right to defend until death of the attacker or until the police arrive and lend aid.

Personally I think that is retard, if someone is in your house they already intend to do you harm if you are also there.
i agree that is stupid but you want to know what else is stupid. the fact that you can kill an intruder on your property but if they attack you you can't defend yourself so you must run away
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:17 am


Viral C
LadiSilverfox
Viral C
LadiSilverfox
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
@Ladi Exactly! 3nodding thank you

@Viral When did I quote the police? You mean my own movie quote way back BEFORE we were even discussing this? I didn't try to bring that into the discussion I just said I liked the quote.
no cause the police always say nobody has the right to kill. except them apparently rolleyes


color=red]Everyone has the right to kill in self defense. [It's just a matter that police are constantly putting themselves in dangerous situations so they have to defend themselves more often. Even than they attempt to use non-lethal forms to take the criminal down first (unless the bad guy already killed a cop, than they will kill in cold blood for revenge sake).
thats not the story here. if you defend yourself then you can be sued by your attacker and most oftenly they win the case. actual fact, sadly


Depends on the state you live in and what you do before...Here in MA, they as that people take themselves and a family and move them to a room with a phone as far away from the attacker as possible. If the attacker enters the room and makes the first move on you or your family you than have the right to defend until death of the attacker or until the police arrive and lend aid.

Personally I think that is retard, if someone is in your house they already intend to do you harm if you are also there.
i agree that is stupid but you want to know what else is stupid. the fact that you can kill an intruder on your property but if they attack you you can't defend yourself so you must run away
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.

Sanzoskitsune
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Red Glacier

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:19 am


Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
LadiSilverfox
Viral C
LadiSilverfox


color=red]Everyone has the right to kill in self defense. [It's just a matter that police are constantly putting themselves in dangerous situations so they have to defend themselves more often. Even than they attempt to use non-lethal forms to take the criminal down first (unless the bad guy already killed a cop, than they will kill in cold blood for revenge sake).
thats not the story here. if you defend yourself then you can be sued by your attacker and most oftenly they win the case. actual fact, sadly


Depends on the state you live in and what you do before...Here in MA, they as that people take themselves and a family and move them to a room with a phone as far away from the attacker as possible. If the attacker enters the room and makes the first move on you or your family you than have the right to defend until death of the attacker or until the police arrive and lend aid.

Personally I think that is retard, if someone is in your house they already intend to do you harm if you are also there.
i agree that is stupid but you want to know what else is stupid. the fact that you can kill an intruder on your property but if they attack you you can't defend yourself so you must run away
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:19 am


Everybody dance now!

*loud dance beat starts*

-Tsuji

124-C


Sanzoskitsune
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:21 am


Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
LadiSilverfox
Viral C
LadiSilverfox


color=red]Everyone has the right to kill in self defense. [It's just a matter that police are constantly putting themselves in dangerous situations so they have to defend themselves more often. Even than they attempt to use non-lethal forms to take the criminal down first (unless the bad guy already killed a cop, than they will kill in cold blood for revenge sake).
thats not the story here. if you defend yourself then you can be sued by your attacker and most oftenly they win the case. actual fact, sadly


Depends on the state you live in and what you do before...Here in MA, they as that people take themselves and a family and move them to a room with a phone as far away from the attacker as possible. If the attacker enters the room and makes the first move on you or your family you than have the right to defend until death of the attacker or until the police arrive and lend aid.

Personally I think that is retard, if someone is in your house they already intend to do you harm if you are also there.
i agree that is stupid but you want to know what else is stupid. the fact that you can kill an intruder on your property but if they attack you you can't defend yourself so you must run away
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
Because these people are in your home, there isn't anywhere TO run. There are reasons for the laws the way they are set up if you stop and actually think about it.

heya Tsuji
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:23 am


Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
LadiSilverfox


Depends on the state you live in and what you do before...Here in MA, they as that people take themselves and a family and move them to a room with a phone as far away from the attacker as possible. If the attacker enters the room and makes the first move on you or your family you than have the right to defend until death of the attacker or until the police arrive and lend aid.

Personally I think that is retard, if someone is in your house they already intend to do you harm if you are also there.
i agree that is stupid but you want to know what else is stupid. the fact that you can kill an intruder on your property but if they attack you you can't defend yourself so you must run away
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
Because these people are in your home, there isn't anywhere TO run. There are reasons for the laws the way they are set up if you stop and actually think about it.

heya Tsuji
then whats the differance if somebody attacked you in your house? if what you say is true then you have to fight back and then you will get sued

Red Glacier


Pnytenshi

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:23 am


Tsujigiri-san
Everybody dance now!

*loud dance beat starts*

-Tsuji


*jumps in and starts to dance* whee
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:24 am


    Hey guys~

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:24 am


Viral C
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker

No, if they are attacking you with deadly force you can defend yourself with deadly force. The only problem is that if you have an opportunity to leave and do not take it, it excedes the idea of self-defense and makes you yourself an attacker.

Go Pny! Go Pny! Go Pny! Go! Go!

-Tsuji
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:24 am


Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
LadiSilverfox


Depends on the state you live in and what you do before...Here in MA, they as that people take themselves and a family and move them to a room with a phone as far away from the attacker as possible. If the attacker enters the room and makes the first move on you or your family you than have the right to defend until death of the attacker or until the police arrive and lend aid.

Personally I think that is retard, if someone is in your house they already intend to do you harm if you are also there.
i agree that is stupid but you want to know what else is stupid. the fact that you can kill an intruder on your property but if they attack you you can't defend yourself so you must run away
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
Because these people are in your home, there isn't anywhere TO run. There are reasons for the laws the way they are set up if you stop and actually think about it.

heya Tsuji
then whats the differance if somebody attacked you in your house? if what you say is true then you have to fight back and then you will get sued
>< The minute they attack you in your house they are an intruder. They got into your house and are attacking you! You will not get sued for protecting yourself from an intruder!

Sanzoskitsune
Crew


LadiSilverfox

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:25 am


Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
LadiSilverfox


Depends on the state you live in and what you do before...Here in MA, they as that people take themselves and a family and move them to a room with a phone as far away from the attacker as possible. If the attacker enters the room and makes the first move on you or your family you than have the right to defend until death of the attacker or until the police arrive and lend aid.

Personally I think that is retard, if someone is in your house they already intend to do you harm if you are also there.
i agree that is stupid but you want to know what else is stupid. the fact that you can kill an intruder on your property but if they attack you you can't defend yourself so you must run away
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
Because these people are in your home, there isn't anywhere TO run. There are reasons for the laws the way they are set up if you stop and actually think about it.

heya Tsuji
then whats the differance if somebody attacked you in your house? if what you say is true then you have to fight back and then you will get sued


What I think is really dumb is if I try and break into your house and cut my hand while breaking your window I can sue you and win!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:26 am


Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
Because these people are in your home, there isn't anywhere TO run. There are reasons for the laws the way they are set up if you stop and actually think about it.

heya Tsuji
then whats the differance if somebody attacked you in your house? if what you say is true then you have to fight back and then you will get sued
>< The minute they attack you in your house they are an intruder. They got into your house and are attacking you! You will not get sued for protecting yourself from an intruder!
yes but they are attacking you so they are an attacker. see its just one continues loop of contradiction

Red Glacier


aretoo
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:27 am


aretoo, despite his fascination with Sanzo & Viral's conversation, can't resist "Everybody Dance Now" (boom-boom-ba-da-boom....boom) and begins dancing
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:27 am


LadiSilverfox
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
Because these people are in your home, there isn't anywhere TO run. There are reasons for the laws the way they are set up if you stop and actually think about it.

heya Tsuji
then whats the differance if somebody attacked you in your house? if what you say is true then you have to fight back and then you will get sued


What I think is really dumb is if I try and break into your house and cut my hand while breaking your window I can sue you and win!
you heard about that too? i REALLY thought that was stupid of all things ><

Red Glacier


Sanzoskitsune
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:28 am


Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Viral C
Sanzoskitsune
Why is running away stupid? You are more likely to survive and live through the ordeal if you RUN! Running is a survival instinct, not stupid.
not that. the fact you can kill an intruder but not an attacker
Because these people are in your home, there isn't anywhere TO run. There are reasons for the laws the way they are set up if you stop and actually think about it.

heya Tsuji
then whats the differance if somebody attacked you in your house? if what you say is true then you have to fight back and then you will get sued
>< The minute they attack you in your house they are an intruder. They got into your house and are attacking you! You will not get sued for protecting yourself from an intruder!
yes but they are attacking you so they are an attacker. see its just one continues loop of contradiction
Did you read Tsuji's post? He addressed this quite well. You are allowed to defend yourself as long as you don't excede the idea of self defense. You are looking at this it seems from a very uneducated standpoint, at least from what I see.
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