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Sheer_Immortal

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:20 am
FangzV
Sheer_Immortal
FangzV
Sheer_Immortal
FangzV
*breaks down door for the second time*
Hay guys, what's goin on in this bar?

So, are you guys gonna raise the price of items you sell in the market by 2%?
If I decide to use the new MP at all, you'd better believe I'm gonna pass my costs on to the buyers. It's the American way. cool

>< Sorry, I'm stupid so I don't know what that means.

...
Hey, Mother Teresa doubted her own faith.
Hm, I gotta check this out. *reads article*
Translation of my previous post: If I decide to use the new marketplace at all, then yes, I will raise my prices by 2% (actually slightly above 2%, as raising the price will raise the fee).

Oh.
Okies.

Oh and, could someone give me the big picture as to why they say 2% tax is good? I can't really understand it. sweatdrop

The tax will take gold out of the economy. Since there's not as much gold going around, the prices on things will lower. (Basically, the gold will have more worth because there's not as much of it.)

The fee is supposed to be a gold-sink, like the Salon or the Edmund/Von Helson quests. With the Salon, you spend gold on hair, but you can't trade the hair, so there's no way to get your gold back (whereas if you spent your gold on an item, you could trade it to other users and get a refund that way), so it takes gold out of the economy. With the quests, you spend (what is it, like 500g?) some amount of gold to get back an item that is, currently, selling for much less than it cost to get from the quest. Since you put in more gold than you'd get back, that too is a gold-sink. (Though if you hang on to the items for a couple years, eventually the price'll go up, but right now it's a gold-sink.)

By making so many ways for people to easily get gold, there was more gold available to spend, so prices on things naturally increased. By taking some of the gold out, we'll still be earning the same amount of gold, but prices will be lower because the gold-sinks "delete" some of the gold that's coming into the system. With less gold available to spend, prices will naturally decrease.

Hope that helped ^.^

Sakura - I know 2% isn't a big deal. That's not what has me up in a fuss. The attitude behind the 2% fee, however, is something with which I have a huge issue. :/  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:22 am
Back from my school final. That was like less than 20 minutes. xd  

TheBlueWarrior
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FangzV

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:22 am
Welcome back Blue.

Sheer_Immortal
FangzV
Sheer_Immortal
FangzV
Sheer_Immortal
FangzV
*breaks down door for the second time*
Hay guys, what's goin on in this bar?

So, are you guys gonna raise the price of items you sell in the market by 2%?
If I decide to use the new MP at all, you'd better believe I'm gonna pass my costs on to the buyers. It's the American way. cool

>< Sorry, I'm stupid so I don't know what that means.

...
Hey, Mother Teresa doubted her own faith.
Hm, I gotta check this out. *reads article*
Translation of my previous post: If I decide to use the new marketplace at all, then yes, I will raise my prices by 2% (actually slightly above 2%, as raising the price will raise the fee).

Oh.
Okies.

Oh and, could someone give me the big picture as to why they say 2% tax is good? I can't really understand it. sweatdrop

The tax will take gold out of the economy. Since there's not as much gold going around, the prices on things will lower. (Basically, the gold will have more worth because there's not as much of it.)

The fee is supposed to be a gold-sink, like the Salon or the Edmund/Von Helson quests. With the Salon, you spend gold on hair, but you can't trade the hair, so there's no way to get your gold back (whereas if you spent your gold on an item, you could trade it to other users and get a refund that way), so it takes gold out of the economy. With the quests, you spend (what is it, like 500g?) some amount of gold to get back an item that is, currently, selling for much less than it cost to get from the quest. Since you put in more gold than you'd get back, that too is a gold-sink. (Though if you hang on to the items for a couple years, eventually the price'll go up, but right now it's a gold-sink.)

By making so many ways for people to easily get gold, there was more gold available to spend, so prices on things naturally increased. By taking some of the gold out, we'll still be earning the same amount of gold, but prices will be lower because the gold-sinks "delete" some of the gold that's coming into the system. With less gold available to spend, prices will naturally decrease.

Hope that helped ^.^

Sakura - I know 2% isn't a big deal. That's not what has me up in a fuss. The attitude behind the 2% fee, however, is something with which I have a huge issue. :/

I think I understand it a bit better now.  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:42 am
Hmmm, some one still owes me five bucks for feeding there Knuffel. xd  

TheBlueWarrior
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Sheer_Immortal

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:44 am
TheBlueWarrior
Hmmm, some one still owes me five bucks for feeding there Knuffel. xd
lol, is that the going rate nowadays? TSN owes me like $100 then xD  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:45 am
TheBlueWarrior
Hmmm, some one still owes me five bucks for feeding there Knuffel. xd

I'll go make you a Knuffel, I'll feed it 300 times, and then you'll owe me 1495 bucks! ^^  

FangzV

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TheBlueWarrior
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:45 am
Sheer_Immortal
TheBlueWarrior
Hmmm, some one still owes me five bucks for feeding there Knuffel. xd
lol, is that the going rate nowadays? TSN owes me like $100 then xD

xd you should let her know that.  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:51 am
What shall I put as the name of the owner of this Knuffel?
Yeah, I'm actually going to make it for you.  

FangzV

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TheBlueWarrior
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:54 am
FangzV
What shall I put as the name of the owner of this Knuffel?
Yeah, I'm actually going to make it for you.

Yeah, but I dun want a Knuffel. I stop doing virtual pets a long time ago. I just don't have enough time to care for it. If you could get me a Yoshi one though, I would pay you gold for it.  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:56 am
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
What shall I put as the name of the owner of this Knuffel?
Yeah, I'm actually going to make it for you.

Yeah, but I dun want a Knuffel. I stop doing virtual pets a long time ago. I just don't have enough time to care for it. If you could get me a Yoshi one though, I would pay you gold for it.

Hm...
Yoshi...
I'll see if one's possible.
(But I'll get one for myself first : D)

...
GODDAMMIT!
AOL CRASHED TWICE IN AT LEAST 2 MINUTES!
><

EDIT: 1:59 it crashed again! D:<  

FangzV

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TheBlueWarrior
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:04 am
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
What shall I put as the name of the owner of this Knuffel?
Yeah, I'm actually going to make it for you.

Yeah, but I dun want a Knuffel. I stop doing virtual pets a long time ago. I just don't have enough time to care for it. If you could get me a Yoshi one though, I would pay you gold for it.

Hm...
Yoshi...
I'll see if one's possible.
(But I'll get one for myself first : D)

...
GODDAMMIT!
AOL CRASHED TWICE IN AT LEAST 2 MINUTES!
><

EDIT: 1:59 it crashed again! D:<

Thats pretty horrible. o.o  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:06 am
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
What shall I put as the name of the owner of this Knuffel?
Yeah, I'm actually going to make it for you.

Yeah, but I dun want a Knuffel. I stop doing virtual pets a long time ago. I just don't have enough time to care for it. If you could get me a Yoshi one though, I would pay you gold for it.

Hm...
Yoshi...
I'll see if one's possible.
(But I'll get one for myself first : D)

...
GODDAMMIT!
AOL CRASHED TWICE IN AT LEAST 2 MINUTES!
><

EDIT: 1:59 it crashed again! D:<

Thats pretty horrible. o.o

Twas the Knuffel owner list that killed the AOL  

FangzV

Toothsome Voter


TheBlueWarrior
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:07 am
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
What shall I put as the name of the owner of this Knuffel?
Yeah, I'm actually going to make it for you.

Yeah, but I dun want a Knuffel. I stop doing virtual pets a long time ago. I just don't have enough time to care for it. If you could get me a Yoshi one though, I would pay you gold for it.

Hm...
Yoshi...
I'll see if one's possible.
(But I'll get one for myself first : D)

...
GODDAMMIT!
AOL CRASHED TWICE IN AT LEAST 2 MINUTES!
><

EDIT: 1:59 it crashed again! D:<

Thats pretty horrible. o.o

Twas the Knuffel owner list that killed the AOL

xd Wow, big list, or just AOL being dumb?  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:08 am
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
What shall I put as the name of the owner of this Knuffel?
Yeah, I'm actually going to make it for you.

Yeah, but I dun want a Knuffel. I stop doing virtual pets a long time ago. I just don't have enough time to care for it. If you could get me a Yoshi one though, I would pay you gold for it.

Hm...
Yoshi...
I'll see if one's possible.
(But I'll get one for myself first : D)

...
GODDAMMIT!
AOL CRASHED TWICE IN AT LEAST 2 MINUTES!
><

EDIT: 1:59 it crashed again! D:<

Thats pretty horrible. o.o

Twas the Knuffel owner list that killed the AOL

xd Wow, big list, or just AOL being dumb?


I dunno, I can't see how big the list is.  

FangzV

Toothsome Voter


TheBlueWarrior
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:09 am
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV
TheBlueWarrior
FangzV

Hm...
Yoshi...
I'll see if one's possible.
(But I'll get one for myself first : D)

...
GODDAMMIT!
AOL CRASHED TWICE IN AT LEAST 2 MINUTES!
><

EDIT: 1:59 it crashed again! D:<

Thats pretty horrible. o.o

Twas the Knuffel owner list that killed the AOL

xd Wow, big list, or just AOL being dumb?


I dunno, I can't see how big the list is.

Probably just AOL then. Gotta tell your family to get rid of it. FOR GREAT JUSTICE!  
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