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suggestions on how to make it better....not bluntley stateing th ovious.. but explaining in lots of detail on how i can change it...i donno... i need to work on the mathamatics and see if i can still keep the ammount of people low but also bring the $ low with a high income comeing in so i can help with further guild events and have some $ in my pocket now and then for the pricy stuff i want.. kinda see what i mean....i want to try to get it down to 250... but then there is a problem there sense i will have only egnough $ to get the one item and nothing for the guild and for me... rizeing the headcount is also makes it harder becuse of how many people i can attract to it.. i dont want to pull off what ace did...

So...so you think you can tell,
Heaven from hell,
Blue skies from pain,
Can you tell a green field,
From a cold steel rail,
A smile from a veil,
Do you think you can tell

Did they get you to trade,
Your heros for ghosts,
Hot ashes for trees,
Hot air for a cool breeze,
Cold comfort for change,
Did you exchange,
A walk on part in the war,
For a lead role in a cage

How I wish, how I wish you were here,
We're just two lost souls swimmin' in a fish bowl,
Year after year,
Runnin' over the same old ground,
What have we found,
The same old fears

Wish you were here...

oops sorry. So what's the criteria for your contest. I'll join! I wanna do contests! Gotta start somewhere right! Bring it on. What are the basics of what I gotta do?

ok gnite shaz.

People may be waiting at the moment to see if that Gift Ninja will donate again, which won't be happening, I'm sure. Let's see. If we drop the price down to say, 300g, and drop the number of people from 25 to 20, you're only making 6000g, which is the price of the prize. That won't work unless you lower the price of the prize...you should have *some* compensation for your work. So nix that.

Keeping it at 300g, and bringing the number back up to 25, your total gross is 7500g. Enough for the prize and a little extra, but not much. This might be a possibility but doesn't really give you any options for helping others with that money.

Keeping the price at 500g and dropping the number to 20 will give you 10000g. This is better, but you might turn away some of those newbies.

You 'could' give people an opportunity to throw more pies, at 100g per pie, OR, you could let people buy the number of pies they want. 25 people times 5 pies each is 125 pies; at 100g each, you're back up to the profit level you were at before. It would take a bit more work to keep up with but it might be more fun. Also, if you could pie someone more than once? I know a couple of people I'd throw five pies at right now. LOL. Buying pies singly could be within the reach of a newbie, who buys two pies, or someone like Raiden, who could buy out your whole inventory and fill them himself for throwing about the guild. LOL.

Anyway...these are the main options as I see them....what do you think?

Ok I read the pie contest thread. Check me to see I've got the idea. 500g traded for 5 pies, throw each at a different person. Speak of it to noone and if someone has loose lips beat them bloody and report them...well maybe not the beating. Just a girly slap! But you wait until everyone's on board before it begins and get a gift if you got the most pietasticness on ya! Did you mention something on there about suggesting gifts. What's the price range? I wants a ball bat but it's 3000 and sounds expensive but I'm one of those that squeals when I win a dollar on a scratch off lottery ticket so it matters not. I went clothes crazy yesterday and today but I'll have 500 in just a bit and I'll go pie shoppin! Does this all sound right?

Sounds about right. The prize level is somewhere in the neighborhood of 6000g; your baseball bat is well within the range. However, these rules may change depending on what Darth thinks about the options I offered him. This is the third series of the pie contest, and he's pretty discouraged that it's going so slowly. It's not gonna fail, though. It will work out. It's too good an idea to fail.