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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:47 pm
Okay, here's my theory as to what was going on...
I guess I picked the R so that the writers could work more freely with content and dialogue- but I didn't think we'd go that far with the graphics. You can explain an R-rated scene without using R-rated pictures, and I thought we'd pretty much do that if the plot ever went that way, and apparently it did.
The question is, is it still R-rated if the PG pictures are used to describe an R-rated event?
I don't think Muffin was really going on any adventures, I figured the entire point of the manga was how he combats the strange factors in his life at his school and home, trying to overcome them to accomplish his goals. Weren't the stalkers supposed to be one of those 'strange factors?'. I thought the male stalker's 'attack' might be used well in the climax of the series' plot because we could also use it to bring Muffin and his friends closer together. He's probably been having trouble with weird perverted people for a while anyway, like Wakusei said he is kind of a target.
Well, that's all I got so far... any other questions?
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:50 pm
MrJimmy No, that's why I didn't want to be the full on writer, because of this logic. It just so happens that you all needed a way to start off the story, and I had ideas in that area, so I steped in and am doing the first to scripts on my own. In an ideal scripter/artist relationship we would pool what we want to see in the chapter, and work on it like that. It just worked out that I was the nly one who had any vision for how it would start out. Ideal, yes... but, do we have some way to all contact each other to pool information? I mean to say: It'd be great if you could stay on as writer, and everyone would be in on the storyline design. I'm probably jumping the bullet here, so feel free to put me back where I should be, but does everyone think we could get an IM conversation or something set up at a time that could work for everybody?
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:51 pm
EienKage MrJimmy No, that's why I didn't want to be the full on writer, because of this logic. It just so happens that you all needed a way to start off the story, and I had ideas in that area, so I steped in and am doing the first to scripts on my own. In an ideal scripter/artist relationship we would pool what we want to see in the chapter, and work on it like that. It just worked out that I was the nly one who had any vision for how it would start out. Ideal, yes... but, do we have some way to all contact each other to pool information? I mean to say: It'd be great if you could stay on as writer, and everyone would be in on the storyline design. I'm probably jumping the bullet here, so feel free to put me back where I should be, but does everyone think we could get an IM conversation or something set up at a time that could work for everybody? i guess, but what i miss? i heard someone say this was gonna have yaoi in it!
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:54 pm
K0m0d0 Okay, here's my theory as to what was going on...
I guess I picked the R so that the writers could work more freely with content and dialogue- but I didn't think we'd go that far with the graphics. You can explain an R-rated scene without using R-rated pictures, and I thought we'd pretty much do that if the plot ever went that way, and apparently it did.
The question is, is it still R-rated if the PG pictures are used to describe an R-rated event?
I don't think Muffin was really going on any adventures, I figured the entire point of the manga was how he combats the strange factors in his life at his school and home, trying to overcome them to accomplish his goals. Weren't the stalkers supposed to be one of those 'strange factors?'. I thought the male stalker's 'attack' might be used well in the climax of the series' plot because we could also use it to bring Muffin and his friends closer together. He's probably been having trouble with weird perverted people for a while anyway, like Wakusei said he is kind of a target.
Well, that's all I got so far... any other questions? I'd like to put in one note, if I could: I'm sure the story would be great that way, but I've always had more of that epic or fantastic twinge... so, could the story be more of a the "After School Special ++" variety? Like, normal highschool life with some crazy supervillains and big story arcs?
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:55 pm
Dragorn the warrior EienKage MrJimmy No, that's why I didn't want to be the full on writer, because of this logic. It just so happens that you all needed a way to start off the story, and I had ideas in that area, so I steped in and am doing the first to scripts on my own. In an ideal scripter/artist relationship we would pool what we want to see in the chapter, and work on it like that. It just worked out that I was the nly one who had any vision for how it would start out. Ideal, yes... but, do we have some way to all contact each other to pool information? I mean to say: It'd be great if you could stay on as writer, and everyone would be in on the storyline design. I'm probably jumping the bullet here, so feel free to put me back where I should be, but does everyone think we could get an IM conversation or something set up at a time that could work for everybody? i guess, but what i miss? i heard someone say this was gonna have yaoi in it! Yeah... sounds like Muffin has a very persistant, creepy male stalker who might end up... doing things to him... sweatdrop I like my idea of his rival selling him to a circus/zoo/freakshow though... ummm... anyone? sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:55 pm
EienKage MrJimmy No, that's why I didn't want to be the full on writer, because of this logic. It just so happens that you all needed a way to start off the story, and I had ideas in that area, so I steped in and am doing the first to scripts on my own. In an ideal scripter/artist relationship we would pool what we want to see in the chapter, and work on it like that. It just worked out that I was the nly one who had any vision for how it would start out. Ideal, yes... but, do we have some way to all contact each other to pool information? I mean to say: It'd be great if you could stay on as writer, and everyone would be in on the storyline design. I'm probably jumping the bullet here, so feel free to put me back where I should be, but does everyone think we could get an IM conversation or something set up at a time that could work for everybody? Umm.... Error!
I don't have any kind of IM, and I'm not sure my dial-up could handle one. It can't handle a lot of things.
--I have to go eat dinner now. I'll see you folks later.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:56 pm
Lobo-chan Dragorn the warrior EienKage MrJimmy No, that's why I didn't want to be the full on writer, because of this logic. It just so happens that you all needed a way to start off the story, and I had ideas in that area, so I steped in and am doing the first to scripts on my own. In an ideal scripter/artist relationship we would pool what we want to see in the chapter, and work on it like that. It just worked out that I was the nly one who had any vision for how it would start out. Ideal, yes... but, do we have some way to all contact each other to pool information? I mean to say: It'd be great if you could stay on as writer, and everyone would be in on the storyline design. I'm probably jumping the bullet here, so feel free to put me back where I should be, but does everyone think we could get an IM conversation or something set up at a time that could work for everybody? i guess, but what i miss? i heard someone say this was gonna have yaoi in it! Yeah... sounds like Muffin has a very persistant, creepy male stalker who might end up... doing things to him... sweatdrop I like my idea of his rival selling him to a circus/zoo/freakshow though... ummm... anyone? sweatdrop weired.........
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:57 pm
K0m0d0; I know for a fact that 56k can do IM programs. 3nodding I had it for a long time.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:59 pm
Well, for the people who can't IM... you could instead do an email mailing list and all the people working on it would be in like, an email group and be able to send their ideas, pics etc that way? sweatdrop
And... oh great, I was gonna say something... *shrug* I forget... I'll say it later if I remember though.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:02 pm
EienKage I'd like to put in one note, if I could: I'm sure the story would be great that way, but I've always had more of that epic or fantastic twinge... so, could the story be more of a the "After School Special ++" variety? Like, normal highschool life with some crazy supervillains and big story arcs? Eien read my mind actually. He pretty much summed up what kind of "adventures" i wanted to write myself.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:05 pm
Hurrah for synergy! blaugh
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:05 pm
Hmmm, that could be interesting... if they still wanted a stalker... he could be like a supervillian or something! surprised Heeheehee >.< But... other than being a squox, what would Muffin be able to do if people agreed to the superhero-y version? He would have to be able to do more than like, bite people and suction cup them and stuff... sweatdrop
(Wow, semi-random thought... suction cups would be all sticking to you like... it would be like... ouch... immagine having those things ripped off of bare flesh 0.o; and some reason 'hickey from hell' comes to mind)
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:06 pm
MrJimmy EienKage I'd like to put in one note, if I could: I'm sure the story would be great that way, but I've always had more of that epic or fantastic twinge... so, could the story be more of a the "After School Special ++" variety? Like, normal highschool life with some crazy supervillains and big story arcs? Eien read my mind actually. He pretty much summed up what kind of "adventures" i wanted to write myself. Yes! Please don't let it get annoying... Like Ranma... or other plotless anime...
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:14 pm
EienKage K0m0d0 Okay, here's my theory as to what was going on...
I guess I picked the R so that the writers could work more freely with content and dialogue- but I didn't think we'd go that far with the graphics. You can explain an R-rated scene without using R-rated pictures, and I thought we'd pretty much do that if the plot ever went that way, and apparently it did.
The question is, is it still R-rated if the PG pictures are used to describe an R-rated event?
I don't think Muffin was really going on any adventures, I figured the entire point of the manga was how he combats the strange factors in his life at his school and home, trying to overcome them to accomplish his goals. Weren't the stalkers supposed to be one of those 'strange factors?'. I thought the male stalker's 'attack' might be used well in the climax of the series' plot because we could also use it to bring Muffin and his friends closer together. He's probably been having trouble with weird perverted people for a while anyway, like Wakusei said he is kind of a target.
Well, that's all I got so far... any other questions? I'd like to put in one note, if I could: I'm sure the story would be great that way, but I've always had more of that epic or fantastic twinge... so, could the story be more of a the "After School Special ++" variety? Like, normal highschool life with some crazy supervillains and big story arcs? Well, yes and no. The adventures wouldn't be Muffins, they'd be the adventures of Muffin's relatives and friends with Muffin sort of caught in the middle. If Muffin had any part in big actionny lifestyle, that wouldn't make sense in contrast with his timid and hesitant personality.
So yes, the adventures and evil villans are quite present, but a bit off-to-the-side when looked at next to the more real-life things like the rival at school, the stalkers, the bullies, and Muffin as a person.
I figured this would be the safest way to go as it couldn't possibly get too annoying, as Mut said.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:18 pm
He's got to grow and change throughout the manga, or, at least I'd think so, even if he starts of hesitant and reserved, in the end he becomes more open and winsome. 3nodding
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