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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:45 am
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Br1ttana Paul says that we are not to be yolked with unbelievers, for what fellowship does righteousness have with unrighteousness and darkness with light?
This attitude has always bothered me a little. For starters, Christians are no more 'righteous' than non Christians. Everyone has sinned, not one of us can say we have a clean slate. The way I see it, Christians should accept that they are sinners and lean on God for guidance. I believe that none of us has the right to judge another and call them unrighteous or unworthy or whatever, Only God can do that. The Bible also tells us to lead by example. Matthew 15: 21-28 says "Have faith and believe so that others will see God's light in you and glorify God". How can we lead others to God if we decide we are too good to associate with non believers?
I honestly believe that no matter how well you try to reason with a person, explain your point of view, take them to church or whatever you want, you're not going to get them to believe in God by telling them. You have to show them. Let them see how wise and kind and selfless and happy God has helped you to be, and they will come to you. If someone comes to you to ask you about God, there is no resistance and no one is offended, and there's a fair greater chance of them actually getting something out of the conversation.
So, to Pandipops: I think at the very least your boyfriend needs to respect your faith. If he's swearing all the time and using His name in vain then it doesn't sound like he realises how important this is to you. If I were you, I would sit him down and gently explain to him (In a quiet moment, not when you've just had a fight so it's like you're telling him off, 'cause then he'll only be defensive) how important your religion is to your life. Let him know that it's not just a label for you, or a loose set of values which are applied when convenient; it's a lifestyle. I would tell him you are willing to respect his beliefs as well, (even if you're going to actively try to convert the guy, these things take time and he needs to know his opinions matter to you) but that it's not okay for him to talk about God in an offensive manner. Let him know exactly what you can't tolerate so that there are no misunderstandings, and make sure that you two sort everything out before the engagement, because something like that will likely only add more strain if you're already a little unsure.
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LyricalSoul93 Br1ttana Paul says that we are not to be yolked with unbelievers, for what fellowship does righteousness have with unrighteousness and darkness with light? This attitude has always bothered me a little. For starters, Christians are no more 'righteous' than non Christians. Everyone has sinned, not one of us can say we have a clean slate. The way I see it, Christians should accept that they are sinners and lean on God for guidance. I believe that none of us has the right to judge another and call them unrighteous or unworthy or whatever, Only God can do that. The Bible also tells us to lead by example. Matthew 15: 21-28 says "Have faith and believe so that others will see God's light in you and glorify God". How can we lead others to God if we decide we are too good to associate with non believers?
I honestly believe that no matter how well you try to reason with a person, explain your point of view, take them to church or whatever you want, you're not going to get them to believe in God by telling them. You have to show them. Let them see how wise and kind and selfless and happy God has helped you to be, and they will come to you. If someone comes to you to ask you about God, there is no resistance and no one is offended, and there's a fair greater chance of them actually getting something out of the conversation.
The point she was trying to make, and the point of that particular passage of scripture wasn't to dissociate ourselves from sinners, all high and mighty like.
The apostle Paul wrote the saints in Corinth, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Cor. 6:14, KJV). When this was written, and for a long time before and after, whenever someone wanted to carry a very heavy burden to a town a long way away, they would yoke to oxen together. If one ox was noticeably different, i.e. larger than the other, or faster than the other, what have you, there would be problems. Big problems. To the point where one could be seriously injured. So, in his metaphor, he's comparing the action of yoking the two together physically, to that of yoking two together spiritually, which is what happens in a marriage. If someone is a christian, everything they are about should be devoted to christ. After all, they have professed that Jesus is their Lord and Savior of their of their eternal soul. But, if someone isn't a christian, they don't have that focus for their life. So, if they were to be wed, 'yoked' together 'til death do them part', one 'ox' will have a different objective than the other, and either cause both to lose their way, or end up with one hurting the other. So, in an effort to avoid that, Paul is advising against marrying someone who is not a believer.
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Kyramud LyricalSoul93 Br1ttana Paul says that we are not to be yolked with unbelievers, for what fellowship does righteousness have with unrighteousness and darkness with light? This attitude has always bothered me a little. For starters, Christians are no more 'righteous' than non Christians. Everyone has sinned, not one of us can say we have a clean slate. The way I see it, Christians should accept that they are sinners and lean on God for guidance. I believe that none of us has the right to judge another and call them unrighteous or unworthy or whatever, Only God can do that. The Bible also tells us to lead by example. Matthew 15: 21-28 says "Have faith and believe so that others will see God's light in you and glorify God". How can we lead others to God if we decide we are too good to associate with non believers?
I honestly believe that no matter how well you try to reason with a person, explain your point of view, take them to church or whatever you want, you're not going to get them to believe in God by telling them. You have to show them. Let them see how wise and kind and selfless and happy God has helped you to be, and they will come to you. If someone comes to you to ask you about God, there is no resistance and no one is offended, and there's a fair greater chance of them actually getting something out of the conversation.The point she was trying to make, and the point of that particular passage of scripture wasn't to dissociate ourselves from sinners, all high and mighty like. The apostle Paul wrote the saints in Corinth, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Cor. 6:14, KJV). When this was written, and for a long time before and after, whenever someone wanted to carry a very heavy burden to a town a long way away, they would yoke to oxen together. If one ox was noticeably different, i.e. larger than the other, or faster than the other, what have you, there would be problems. Big problems. To the point where one could be seriously injured. So, in his metaphor, he's comparing the action of yoking the two together physically, to that of yoking two together spiritually, which is what happens in a marriage. If someone is a christian, everything they are about should be devoted to christ. After all, they have professed that Jesus is their Lord and Savior of their of their eternal soul. But, if someone isn't a christian, they don't have that focus for their life. So, if they were to be wed, 'yoked' together 'til death do them part', one 'ox' will have a different objective than the other, and either cause both to lose their way, or end up with one hurting the other. So, in an effort to avoid that, Paul is advising against marrying someone who is not a believer.
I understood her intention, It's just that in my personal experience people can easily take that scripture a little too far or misinterpret it to mean that we shouldn't associate with non believers. I mean, we are 'yoked together' in a similar way to our family and close friends as we are to those we are romantically involved with. All I'm saying is, we can't push away those who don't believe, and we can't judge them, or we're hurting their chances of finding God.
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