PETA has gone INSANE

[Champagne98]

Since I know everyone doesn't go into the Phunkeh Thread, I figured I would bring this up on it's own topic, open for discussion. And yes, in most cases I support PETA, but not in all instances (and yes, I eat meat).

I was told by a friend of mine that PETA wants ice cream companies, such as Ben & Jerry's, to stop using cow's milk as an ingredient as it "demeans" the cow. Instead, they want these companies to start using human breast milk.

In my own opinion, that would just be wrong. First off, while human breast milk is good for BABIES, I know a guy who, while his wife was breast feeding their baby, got a drink of her breast milk. The politest way of putting the results is... he was stuck in the bathroom for hours.

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[Saverio C.]

PETA has gone insane? Perhaps you should read their comics. They are batshit crazy.  

[Champagne98]

lol

they might be batshit crazy, but now they've gone far past that...

I mean, would YOU eat ice cream made of human breast milk if you knew that you'd be spending hours in the bathrooom afterwards?

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[Champagne98]

I know... those poor cows shouldn't have to suffer because PETA is STUPID!!!

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[Lobo-chan]

Yep, PETA has been crazy for a long time... Crazier than me, 'cause at least I'm a fun crazy... sweatdrop

So, along with the fact that the cows would get all sorts of problems from not getting milk and getting diarhhea every time you have an ice cream cone would suck majorly... How are they suggesting we harvest this breast milk? Just... get a bunch of women pregnant, and get them to keep lactating after they're done nursing and send them to a factory somewhere to get milked every day? Send it in the mail? Ewwww, it'd spoil in the post! gonk

What's interesting is that we were talking about breastmilk in art just the other day... Not the class, just the people I was sitting with...
Aaaand... who's with me on starting an organization that says that you should treat the plants fairly 'cause they're living and have feelings too, so therefor the PETA people should eat dirt or something? confused  

[God-The-RapistV2.0]

The only reason this is bad is because of the amount of milk a single woman can produce VS how much a single cow can.

Cows can produce about 25 gallons of milk in a single day were as a woman on a good day could produce roughly 75 ounces, so their production line is going to have to be smaller, or they're going to have to hire A LOT of people to lactate for them.

There is nothing wrong with Human Breastmilk, the reaction of that ONE MAN is not the common for people in western cultures. Consuming human breastmilk is better for you than cow milk in every aspect. You can right now buy Human Breastmilk and cheese and ice cream from natrualist stores and websites.

Cows don't NEED to be milked. If they were to feed the calf and the ween it like any other mammal they would just stop producing milk. What do you think wild and beef cows do? Milk each other?

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[Kalstolyn]

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What GTR said. Cow will only suffer for a few days after you stop milking them, like my sister in law when her daughter suddenly decided that nursing time was actually bitey-bitey time and was therefore suddenly weaned. She went around saying "ow my boobs" for a few days and they spontaneously squirted milk in the shower now and then until they got the message that they were no longer needed.

It's actually very unnatural for humans to be able to consume milk in any form past a certain age. People who are lactose intolerant are actually the normal people, those who have no problem with dairy products are mutants. Go evolution!

Also for what it's worth, human milk has a higher sugar content than cow milk, so it might make for a richer tasting ice cream. Horse's milk apparently tastes quite similar to human milk, I've been told.

And yes, PETA has always been off their collective rocker. Oh... Kyla: Plants don't have nervous systems, so they can't feel pain. That just makes them more helpless and in need of protection. xd

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[Sentama Lin]

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I don't like cruel treatment of animals like many people, but PETA in general has methods that are just wrong. So wrong. I want animals treated ethically, but not in the way PETA demands, nor in the way that they are demanding.  

[God-The-RapistV2.0]

The only reason that Peta is pushing for this now is because of the report of a Swiss restaurant supplementing their dairy products for 75% Breast Milk.

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[Champagne98]

Hey, I just report what I was told, and thought it would be a good discussion, and it looks like I was right. Granted, I hate to see animals abused, but milking cows is not abuse. Plus when you milk a nursing cow, just like when a woman starts breastfeeding an infant, milking/nursing brings in more milk, but cows can produce much more milk than a woman, and cow milk doesn't go bad as quickly. Granted, all milk goes bad after a while, but human breast milk can only be stored in a refrigerator for 24 hours, while cow's milk can be stored until the expiration date (about two weeks in most cases).

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[God-The-RapistV2.0]

Wow, that's just a whole bunch of wrong.

First of all you can't compare Pasturized Cow milk and Fresh Breast Milk. Of course the Cow Milk will last longer it has been processed to last longer. Second of all you can keep fresh breast milk for 2 - 3 days in a regular fridge, two months in a freezer or six months in a Deep Freeze (Only because they're colder and not opened as often). But we've stored it for up to four days with no problems.

The amount of milk that is increased by continual expressing is minimal. This is why we breed milk cows based on how much milk they create, so that later generations will have larger teats and more mammary glands.

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[Kusaragi]

Processed milk can be stored for longer because it's been processed, removing some of the fat, letting the parts separate out and skimming off some of the excess extends it's shelf life, given time the same process could be used for breast milk. I'm not sure if I would buy breast milk. I go through alot of milk in a week and cows have a greater yield.

I've seen some of the things that are done to milking cows and sometimes the practices aren't the best, but pushing to chance the target of a bad system does not make the system better. I say keep milking cows but make something that is a little easier on the cows.

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[Champagne98]

As far as storing breast milk, I was going by what my doctors were telling me when I had my oldest (almost 8 years ago now).

As for the method of treatment for cows, I know, I've seen pics, but I also have seen a "natural" dairy farm here, where the cows are all out in a pasture, and they're milked by hand, not by machine. Luckily, that's only about 10-15 miles from where I live and their milk is sold around here, so when I can afford it, that's what I buy. I've been known though to go through about ten gallons a week in my house when we have milk, mainly because of my girls when they come over, but also the four adults in the household.

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