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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:48 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:51 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:55 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:02 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:07 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:15 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:29 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:50 pm
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Regardless, the harm of religion is that it's all too easy for people to no longer create and develop their own ethics. They merely subscribe to the morals and ethics of their religion. While that provides a power for an individual (the collective group, the We, is a very powerful force), an individual who becomes powerful through the We is no longer glorifying and making himself look great because those beliefs are not his own (it's the property of all that believe it). Ignoring the faith aspect altogether (which is hard for most, if not all, religions), the only way Religion could work in Rand's idealised man is if the Religion encouraged the man to create his own values through man's own research and man's own reasoning.
I don't know. In this case (for my case and Rand's case) we need to agree to disagree. I have faith, but I do my best to not let faith cloud out reason. For example, I put more weight on (let's just say the goodness of same-gendered love) "this is hurting another man -- I won't do this because as a person who thinks in reason hurting another man is against my ethics" than "the religion that I subscribe to says, through faith, that G_d says that all same-gendered relationships are wrong. Ergo, you shouldn't do this because I have faith that G_d says this is wrong, even if you're hurting."
I don't know. In this case (for my case and Rand's case) we need to agree to disagree. I have faith in the fact that I am doing what I think is right -- not I have faith in G_d (or whatnot) and I think G_d is right.
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:57 pm
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Sentama Lin Regardless, the harm of religion is that it's all too easy for people to no longer create and develop their own ethics. They merely subscribe to the morals and ethics of their religion. While that provides a power for an individual (the collective group, the We, is a very powerful force), an individual who becomes powerful through the We is no longer glorifying and making himself look great because those beliefs are not his own (it's the property of all that believe it). Ignoring the faith aspect altogether (which is hard for most, if not all, religions), the only way Religion could work in Rand's idealised man is if the Religion encouraged the man to create his own values through man's own research and man's own reasoning. I don't know. In this case (for my case and Rand's case) we need to agree to disagree. I have faith, but I do my best to not let faith cloud out reason. For example, I put more weight on (let's just say the goodness of same-gendered love) "this is hurting another man -- I won't do this because as a person who thinks in reason hurting another man is against my ethics" than "the religion that I subscribe to says, through faith, that G_d says that all same-gendered relationships are wrong. Ergo, you shouldn't do this because I have faith that G_d says this is wrong, even if you're hurting."I don't know. In this case (for my case and Rand's case) we need to agree to disagree. I have faith in the fact that I am doing what I think is right -- not I have faith in G_d (or whatnot) and I think G_d is right.
That's misusing the tool, so to speak. Religion is oft misused.
Like I said, this is pretty much the part I disagree with Rand on.
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:00 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:14 pm
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