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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:05 pm

I believe that one of the best questions that might make you freak out if you're familiar with it.

Descartes argues that humans are: material and immaterial, rational, and that skepticism is incorrect. explain fully and in detail how he establishes the above conclusion.

Suggestions on this? He's, kind of insane.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:19 pm

descarte is one of the insane ones.

Didn't he establish his view by rebuilding the house of knowledge. and locked himself in a oven till he could say he knew what he knew. or something a rather.

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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:30 pm

We exist on two planes.

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and they are American and Southwest

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Metaphysical and physical

Sure. Physically, we can touch something, but the idea of the thing we just touched is the metaphysical aspect as our awareness is on the metaphysical plane.

Umm... What was that illustration again?

You're in a cave facing away from the entrance, but all you see is a shadow puppet show depiction about the actual world that lies outside the cave.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:32 pm

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descarte is one of the insane ones.

Didn't he establish his view by rebuilding the house of knowledge. and locked himself in a oven till he could say he knew what he knew. or something a rather.

Sounds about right.
I believe specifically he:
said to doubt everything.
because we think we have a mind and that means we exist on the immaterial plane.
if we imagine for a moment that we know what some things are, such as the infinite, and the all powerful, we can find god since we can't perceive infinite and all powerful.
Something about how god gave us our senses, and our senses are given to us by god so they can't be wrong.
So, we should trust our senses even though they're unreliable.
...yeah, a loony.

Oh, and you're talking about Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:07 pm

wellwisher

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descarte is one of the insane ones.

Didn't he establish his view by rebuilding the house of knowledge. and locked himself in a oven till he could say he knew what he knew. or something a rather.

Sounds about right.
I believe specifically he:
said to doubt everything.
because we think we have a mind and that means we exist on the immaterial plane.
if we imagine for a moment that we know what some things are, such as the infinite, and the all powerful, we can find god since we can't perceive infinite and all powerful.
Something about how god gave us our senses, and our senses are given to us by god so they can't be wrong.
So, we should trust our senses even though they're unreliable.
...yeah, a loony.

Oh, and you're talking about Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

His theory was some "proof" of god. But it's really complicated and has a bunch of loopholes. That's all I remember from philosophy 12 about descartes.

It's something like
I think therefor I am
I think of god therefor he is.
because what you think is what is percieved.

His theory allows for a lot of misquoting.

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