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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:28 am
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:44 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:22 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:54 am
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Visibility probably has a good deal to do with it. A thread is going to get more eyes on it in the main forum, people don't have a reason to check subforums unless the subforum's focus is inherently interesting to them.
If subforums had the option of a preview, viewable from the list on the main forum, things would no doubt improve, just not having to click that one extra time is a very small thing, but it's value can't be understated.
Theme is important too, roleplaying has a better chance of engaging an active userbase than a spam/poll forum, a weak theme will end up with weak engagement.
Monitoring activity in the main forum is a good idea before you make a new subforum, if there isn't even a new page on the main forum every month, what point is there to splitting that activity up? Gauge the interest the members would have with a new subforum before making it.
As it stands, I'd say a guild only needs one subforum at the start, for archiving particularly good/important threads. A subforum for crew should be saved until there is a need for organization, like if you have a large userbase/crew, or want to keep tabs of problem posters.
Like Moonie said, this guild's subforums used to be very active, the fact that it was one of the LARGEST guilds, and the old way of displaying guilds by membership numbers (Which meant lots of visibility for us), meant that they were going to be active just due to sheer numbers.
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:28 am
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:37 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:28 pm
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:59 am
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Zphal It's that one extra click. So much effort. Wow. It's not the actual effort of clicking, it's the factors that make even bothering to look at the subforums not worth thinking about, it's much simpler to post whatever in the general forum, you don't really have a reason to look and see if it's more appropriate somewhere else unless it clashes with the main use of the forum.
For example, I don't see posting about some big event that just happened in this forum being an issue even though there is a specific subforum for news. I didn't even know there was one until I checked the subforums list specifically to find an example. In a theoretical RP guild the main forum might be for in character stuff and a subforum for out of character stuff, so I'd actually go to that subforum to post about the big event.
Of course this is comparing our 33 subforums list to just 1, but the number difference is a big factor too, people are more likely to skip large blocks of text they're not interested in, and the more subforums there are there's a higher chance of overlap, which does nothing but take up screen real-estate (For example, COS, SPS, BTPO, and MPL are all vaguely "Just post for posting's sake" subforums. BTPO and YCQ have some overlap too I'd say.) and nothing "pops".
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:22 am
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Ryougi Yasumaru Zphal It's that one extra click. So much effort. Wow. It's not the actual effort of clicking, it's the factors that make even bothering to look at the subforums not worth thinking about, it's much simpler to post whatever in the general forum, you don't really have a reason to look and see if it's more appropriate somewhere else unless it clashes with the main use of the forum. For example, I don't see posting about some big event that just happened in this forum being an issue even though there is a specific subforum for news. I didn't even know there was one until I checked the subforums list specifically to find an example. In a theoretical RP guild the main forum might be for in character stuff and a subforum for out of character stuff, so I'd actually go to that subforum to post about the big event. Of course this is comparing our 33 subforums list to just 1, but the number difference is a big factor too, people are more likely to skip large blocks of text they're not interested in, and the more subforums there are there's a higher chance of overlap, which does nothing but take up screen real-estate (For example, COS, SPS, BTPO, and MPL are all vaguely "Just post for posting's sake" subforums. BTPO and YCQ have some overlap too I'd say.) and nothing "pops".
Well, Gaia has failed to ever deliver us the ability to remove subbies, so... xd
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:29 am
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Zphal Ryougi Yasumaru Zphal It's that one extra click. So much effort. Wow. It's not the actual effort of clicking, it's the factors that make even bothering to look at the subforums not worth thinking about, it's much simpler to post whatever in the general forum, you don't really have a reason to look and see if it's more appropriate somewhere else unless it clashes with the main use of the forum. For example, I don't see posting about some big event that just happened in this forum being an issue even though there is a specific subforum for news. I didn't even know there was one until I checked the subforums list specifically to find an example. In a theoretical RP guild the main forum might be for in character stuff and a subforum for out of character stuff, so I'd actually go to that subforum to post about the big event. Of course this is comparing our 33 subforums list to just 1, but the number difference is a big factor too, people are more likely to skip large blocks of text they're not interested in, and the more subforums there are there's a higher chance of overlap, which does nothing but take up screen real-estate (For example, COS, SPS, BTPO, and MPL are all vaguely "Just post for posting's sake" subforums. BTPO and YCQ have some overlap too I'd say.) and nothing "pops". Well, Gaia has failed to ever deliver us the ability to remove subbies, so... xd Yeah, that's unfortunate for sure. You could always make a ~new~ guild but thats not... great... for obvious reasons.
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:47 am
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Ryougi Yasumaru Zphal Ryougi Yasumaru Zphal It's that one extra click. So much effort. Wow. It's not the actual effort of clicking, it's the factors that make even bothering to look at the subforums not worth thinking about, it's much simpler to post whatever in the general forum, you don't really have a reason to look and see if it's more appropriate somewhere else unless it clashes with the main use of the forum. For example, I don't see posting about some big event that just happened in this forum being an issue even though there is a specific subforum for news. I didn't even know there was one until I checked the subforums list specifically to find an example. In a theoretical RP guild the main forum might be for in character stuff and a subforum for out of character stuff, so I'd actually go to that subforum to post about the big event. Of course this is comparing our 33 subforums list to just 1, but the number difference is a big factor too, people are more likely to skip large blocks of text they're not interested in, and the more subforums there are there's a higher chance of overlap, which does nothing but take up screen real-estate (For example, COS, SPS, BTPO, and MPL are all vaguely "Just post for posting's sake" subforums. BTPO and YCQ have some overlap too I'd say.) and nothing "pops". Well, Gaia has failed to ever deliver us the ability to remove subbies, so... xd Yeah, that's unfortunate for sure. You could always make a ~new~ guild but thats not... great... for obvious reasons.
Indeed. And things are even more jacked with the new currency, because now I can't send out a guild announcement. Used to cost around 15,000 gold. They forgot to apply the conversion factor. So it costs the same. But in platinum. In other words, they inflated the cost of sending a guild announcement by 10,000,000x.
So yeah. Can't really even do an event and get everyone's attention either.
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:14 pm
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Zphal Ryougi Yasumaru Zphal Ryougi Yasumaru Zphal It's that one extra click. So much effort. Wow. It's not the actual effort of clicking, it's the factors that make even bothering to look at the subforums not worth thinking about, it's much simpler to post whatever in the general forum, you don't really have a reason to look and see if it's more appropriate somewhere else unless it clashes with the main use of the forum. For example, I don't see posting about some big event that just happened in this forum being an issue even though there is a specific subforum for news. I didn't even know there was one until I checked the subforums list specifically to find an example. In a theoretical RP guild the main forum might be for in character stuff and a subforum for out of character stuff, so I'd actually go to that subforum to post about the big event. Of course this is comparing our 33 subforums list to just 1, but the number difference is a big factor too, people are more likely to skip large blocks of text they're not interested in, and the more subforums there are there's a higher chance of overlap, which does nothing but take up screen real-estate (For example, COS, SPS, BTPO, and MPL are all vaguely "Just post for posting's sake" subforums. BTPO and YCQ have some overlap too I'd say.) and nothing "pops". Well, Gaia has failed to ever deliver us the ability to remove subbies, so... xd Yeah, that's unfortunate for sure. You could always make a ~new~ guild but thats not... great... for obvious reasons. Indeed. And things are even more jacked with the new currency, because now I can't send out a guild announcement. Used to cost around 15,000 gold. They forgot to apply the conversion factor. So it costs the same. But in platinum. In other words, they inflated the cost of sending a guild announcement by 10,000,000x.
So yeah. Can't really even do an event and get everyone's attention either. Oh geez! eek
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