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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:37 am
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:21 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:50 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:38 pm
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dboyzero Born and raised in SoCal, currently schooling in NorCal. Having California as one state is fine, in my opinion. If it were to split, would SoCal residents still be allowed to attend UC and CSU schools up state? And the same applies for NorCal residents who want to school down south. There's much more than just politics at stake here. Sure, NorCal tends to be more conservative on average, but if you really break down the state, you'll see that liberal voters just tend to be more coastal, and conservative voters increase the further inland you go, both in the North and South. Would that be a case for splitting California up into EastCal and WestCal? The state's fine as is, SoCal just get's a bigger rep because there's Hollywood and LA who get a lot of attention from the press.
I think the schooling would be the same considering the Cal Grant and the like. After all, there are a lot of GREAT schools, in both SoCal and Nor Cal. I myself am a resident of Nor Cal and am going to be going to Pepperdine in So Cal. As for that WestCal and EastCal lol that's just a funny idea.
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:57 pm
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:21 am
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Strideo I agree. The number of electoral votes California gets seems overwhelming. State / Electoral Votes California 54 New York 33 Texas 32 Florida 25 Pennsylvania 23 Illinois 22 Ohio 21 Michigan 18 New Jersey 15 North Carolina 14 Georgia 13 Virginia 13
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:19 pm
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Strideo I agree. The number of electoral votes California gets seems overwhelming. State / Electoral Votes California 54 New York 33 Texas 32 Florida 25 Pennsylvania 23 Illinois 22 Ohio 21 Michigan 18 New Jersey 15 North Carolina 14 Georgia 13 Virginia 13
Well, the thing about electoral votes is that it's based on population. California just happens to be the more populated state right now, since we've got a large amount of major cities (SF, LA, Sac-town, San Diego, etc.). Does this mean that we should split up every state that becomes the highest populated? If we did that, the US would eventually become a jumble of different states and regions, much like the present Congressional districts of today.
We're a big state, with the 5th largest economy in the WORLD. Hell, we could be our own country. But we're with the US, and splitting up CA wouldn't gain us anything but a headache due to yet another state boundary. I've yet to hear a concise and convincing argument for separating NorCal from SoCal, and most of what I'd heard so far is that we're too big. What detriments are there to being the most populated state exactly?
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:37 am
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dboyzero Strideo I agree. The number of electoral votes California gets seems overwhelming. State / Electoral Votes California 54 New York 33 Texas 32 Florida 25 Pennsylvania 23 Illinois 22 Ohio 21 Michigan 18 New Jersey 15 North Carolina 14 Georgia 13 Virginia 13 Well, the thing about electoral votes is that it's based on population. California just happens to be the more populated state right now, since we've got a large amount of major cities (SF, LA, Sac-town, San Diego, etc.). Does this mean that we should split up every state that becomes the highest populated? If we did that, the US would eventually become a jumble of different states and regions, much like the present Congressional districts of today. We're a big state, with the 5th largest economy in the WORLD. Hell, we could be our own country. But we're with the US, and splitting up CA wouldn't gain us anything but a headache due to yet another state boundary. I've yet to hear a concise and convincing argument for separating NorCal from SoCal, and most of what I'd heard so far is that we're too big. What detriments are there to being the most populated state exactly?
California has had plenty of overpopulation type problems in recent times. If I recall correctly, there was that power-shortage problem where there were blackouts and the like. Also, the educational things were going to pot, because the state was in debt (due to the former governor, not our Arnold! 4laugh ). Also there were pollutants getting out of hand.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:49 pm
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:00 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:38 pm
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I agree with you completely, but keep in mind that the electorial vote depends on the population, which is why Virginia, where I live, gets more votes then some other states that are larger. But in response to the idea of spliting the northern and southern parts of the state, that isn't that big of a deal really. Virginians do the same thing. I am from Northern Virginia, and northern virginians take pride in being from that area because most of the people in the southern parts of Virginia don't have the same wealth, statisicly speaking of coarse.
Think of it this way. If you drive for thirty minutes south of my city you reach an area in which the food goes from nice healthy food to buckets of grease. I can just think of one time when I went to Charlettesville. The hash browns changed completely. I couldn't imagine how different it was.
Anyways the iea of spliting a state isn't that wierd because Virginia used to include West Virginia and they split during the Civil War, and stayed that way. However, California won't split because the state government takes pride in being worth the highest number of electorial votes which gives the state power in a way. Plus the economy would be ruined since the majority of the high wealth ports are in the middle of the coast. The two states would probably argue as to which state would get what city.
But think about it this way, California will eventually become it's own country, afterall it is floating away from the continent.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:36 pm
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:06 pm
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:54 am
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:47 pm
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