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 Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:45 pm
OK, so, im Unitarian. any idea what that is? I'll tell you. it is the religion that rejects the ideals of Christians because they belive that anyone who doesnt belive in "their God" is doomed to eturnal damnation. No one seems to know what Unitarianism is! Did you know that many famous people are/were Unitarian? for instance;Thomas Jefferson, John Adams.John Quincy Adams, Clara Barton, Mallard Fillmore, and William Taft. Every Christian I tell my religion to trys to convert me! Is it OK that I have my own religion?!?!? Am I wrong to belive something other that you?!?!
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:09 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:53 pm
no it's not a problem if you have your own belief system. I was raised catholic, but i am not an advid church goer. infact i choose to avoid it at all possible. I consider myself a spitualist. I believe that each religion has a unique take on the concept of religion and there are many points that each believe i believe as well. to the point, i believe that there is a god or gods, if not multiple deities. I believe in spirits, in all things having spirits and in all things being in part of a greater whole. I even believe in the concept of the earth having a spirit, "Mother Nature" "Gaia" ect. even in the concept of atheism that says there is no god, i believe that something beyond the concept of what we can understand created us. if someone says my beliefs are wrong, i can honestly tell them that i understand there religion, i just think it is part of a bigger whole.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:05 pm
No, I don't "got a problem with that." Do you want me to? confused
Besides, I didn't know angst was a religion. xd
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Khalida Nyoka Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:09 pm
Wrong. Wrong on multiple levels.
First:
Unitarians reject the concept of the Trinity. They do not buy into the "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" as set forth by the Council at/of Nicea in, I think, about 300 A.D. They do not spit in Christians faces over the issue. They ARE Christians, who just don't happen to believe he was the son of God. Savior/Messiah, yes, deity/demi-god, no.
Second:
Universalists reject the idea of eternal damnation. But are still Christian. They refuse to believe that any benevolent creator would willingly subject its creations to suffering for transgressions that can easily be forgiven (by the creator).
Third:
Your post shows far too much anger, and should be reconsidered if you wish to be taken seriously. Otherwise people will only think you are a whining child who either wants attention, or wants confrontation (the bad type of attention).
Fourth:
Yes you may have your own religion, just be sure to call yourself the correct name and actually understand the tenents of that faith.
In short, your post was incorrect and excessively angsty... you must have meant to say you were a Universalist. Obviously I do know a good deal about what Unitarianism is, as well as Universalism, and Unitarian Universalism...
Yes you may have your own religion, and you are not wrong to believe Something different.
Have you even tried understanding why they try to convert you or get upset with you?
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:11 pm
Unitarian? what about "whoever will not stand for something will fall for anything"? that sums it up for me. here are random jokes from the UU joke generator: UUs address prayers, "To whom it may concern." A devout Christian was arguing with a UU about the existence of God. He said, "Ok, just prove there is no God." The UU quipped, "You can't prove there is no God - you have take it on faith" A visitor was asked afterward how she had liked the Unitarian church. "That was the damnedest church I ever went to," she said. "The only time I heard the name Jesus Christ was when the janitor fell down the stairs" What is the meaning of Easter for UUs? Easter is when Jesus comes out of his tomb, and if he sees his shadow he goes back in and we get six more weeks of winter. http://stoney.sb.org/uujokes.html
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:37 pm
I love unitarians. On a whole I have found them exceedingly friendly and open, at least in my area. If i actually went to church, I would probably go there.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:41 pm
I don't mind if anyone is or isn't Christian. Just don't try to convert me.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:19 am
man...religous fights are fun biggrin
i myself am jewish, so most people just ask me for money XD
i can sympathize why you might be angry, but to prove or even have someone ELSE prove what you are saying, you must put your thoughts, theories or ideas forward in a clear, consise way.
like my horrible spelling lol
i haven't much to say, i merely wan to sound smart. i had never heard of unitarian until now, so there is not much i can offer...
i wouldnt convert you though, I myself being jewish, understand being oppressed XD
later smile
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:38 pm
jadeitegodess OK, so, im Unitarian. any idea what that is? I'll tell you. it is the religion that rejects the ideals of Christians because they belive that anyone who doesnt belive in "their God" is doomed to eturnal damnation. No one seems to know what Unitarianism is! Did you know that many famous people are/were Unitarian? for instance;Thomas Jefferson, John Adams.John Quincy Adams, Clara Barton, Mallard Fillmore, and William Taft. Every Christian I tell my religion to trys to convert me! Is it OK that I have my own religion?!?!? Am I wrong to belive something other that you?!?!
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:09 am
no human has a wright to judge on religion in any form /we as humans make the mistake that my religion is better than yours and it is not god is god no matter what or how you worship or pray to him /only god has a wright to judge and if we as humans would except and respect each other views of religion we as humans just might end up happy with each other rather than kill and destroy each other heart
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:34 am
chessiejo Unitarian? what about "whoever will not stand for something will fall for anything"? that sums it up for me. here are random jokes from the UU joke generator: UUs address prayers, "To whom it may concern." A devout Christian was arguing with a UU about the existence of God. He said, "Ok, just prove there is no God." The UU quipped, "You can't prove there is no God - you have take it on faith" A visitor was asked afterward how she had liked the Unitarian church. "That was the damnedest church I ever went to," she said. "The only time I heard the name Jesus Christ was when the janitor fell down the stairs" What is the meaning of Easter for UUs? Easter is when Jesus comes out of his tomb, and if he sees his shadow he goes back in and we get six more weeks of winter. http://stoney.sb.org/uujokes.html I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! those jokes are so funny!
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:35 am
mynyori no it's not a problem if you have your own belief system. I was raised catholic, but i am not an advid church goer. infact i choose to avoid it at all possible. I consider myself a spitualist. I believe that each religion has a unique take on the concept of religion and there are many points that each believe i believe as well. to the point, i believe that there is a god or gods, if not multiple deities. I believe in spirits, in all things having spirits and in all things being in part of a greater whole. I even believe in the concept of the earth having a spirit, "Mother Nature" "Gaia" ect. even in the concept of atheism that says there is no god, i believe that something beyond the concept of what we can understand created us. if someone says my beliefs are wrong, i can honestly tell them that i understand there religion, i just think it is part of a bigger whole. yes yes... i totally agree
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:36 am
zphal_girl87 No, I don't "got a problem with that." Do you want me to? confused Besides, I didn't know angst was a religion. xd , no its not angst! xp , it was late when i wrote this, and i was cranky... SORRY!!!!!!! heart
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:38 am
Khalida Nyoka Wrong. Wrong on multiple levels. First: Unitarians reject the concept of the Trinity. They do not buy into the "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" as set forth by the Council at/of Nicea in, I think, about 300 A.D. They do not spit in Christians faces over the issue. They ARE Christians, who just don't happen to believe he was the son of God. Savior/Messiah, yes, deity/demi-god, no. Second: Universalists reject the idea of eternal damnation. But are still Christian. They refuse to believe that any benevolent creator would willingly subject its creations to suffering for transgressions that can easily be forgiven (by the creator). Third: Your post shows far too much anger, and should be reconsidered if you wish to be taken seriously. Otherwise people will only think you are a whining child who either wants attention, or wants confrontation (the bad type of attention). Fourth: Yes you may have your own religion, just be sure to call yourself the correct name and actually understand the tenents of that faith. In short, your post was incorrect and excessively angsty... you must have meant to say you were a Universalist. Obviously I do know a good deal about what Unitarianism is, as well as Universalism, and Unitarian Universalism... Yes you may have your own religion, and you are not wrong to believe Something different. Have you even tried understanding why they try to convert you or get upset with you? um...im sorry if i sounded angry... i was sleepy and cranky...but you sound pretty ticked off yourself...
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